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Do we even have a youth culture now? I think not. No music as far as I can tell. And all the "culturally enthusiastic" youth that I know are just into masks,
by swayvil 4y ago
Do we even have a youth culture now? I think not.
No music as far as I can tell.
And all the "culturally enthusiastic" youth that I know are just into masks, identity politics, transgender and race stuff... Which is heavily subsidized by the corporate/government media and therefore far from genuine.
Did it get subverted out of existence?
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- swatcoder 4y agoI can't follow what you're suggesting here. Every statement sounds wrong to my ears as though we're speaking different languages. But I'm really curious what you mean. Can you elaborate? Specifically -- can you go into a some more detail about what "youth culture" means to you, and what makes one genuine vs not?
- swayvil 4y agoLol. I wasn't born yesterday. I know a drawing-out maneuver when I see it.
- bencollier49 4y agoArguably, music isn't what young people care about any more (Rick Beato did one of his vidijeremiads about this recently), so there aren't any youth music subcultures. It does seem to have refocused towards identity politics.
- lm28469 4y agoI feel like it's always been the same to some extent, capitalism is just much stronger now and globalisation (of merchandise and information) mean there are much less regional/country specific movements. It's still easy to find niche groups, the signal to noise ratio is completely fucked though
- swayvil 4y agoAre raves still a thing? I'm a big fan of moody ambient electronica, but I can't imagine anybody pogoing to it. What do the kids dance to these days? Are there still mosh pits?
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- hutzlibu 4y agoYes. Various. Yes. Whether it is more or less, like say 20 years ago, I could not tell, but I would say it is more divers today. Less strict defined scenes.
- lm28469 4y agoAll of this still happens, you just have to look for them. Kids dance to whatever they want, have a look at any social media, they probably dance more than ever before. Kids don't go to mosh pits but these still happen. There are raves year round all around the world, from electro to death metal Maybe you got too old and/or just plain disconnected from the new youth culture(s), it doesn't mean it doesn't exist
- evan_ 4y ago"Am I out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong."
- kjs3 4y agoYeah...it really sucks when the current generation doesn't rebel in a way approved by the 'rebels' of a previous generation. You should do something about that...tell them to get off your lawn or something.
- swayvil 4y agoWhen the rebels are sponsored by the government and top corporations, it isn't really rebellion.
- Sonata 4y agoYouth culture is alive and well. And as for music subcultures, I'm a fan of several genres which have distinctive fashions, art styles and world views - rave, psytrance, drum and bass, hardcore punk, metal. It's great to go along to gigs and meet people from those different groups. I think what has changed is that those subcultures are no longer exclusive to young people. It has become more acceptable for people to be outwardly "alternative" later in life, so people remain in the cultures they found when they were young.
- swayvil 4y agoWhat is one modern youth subculture? Can you name it, its philosophy (roughly, in a nutshell), its music-style and its style of dress? Because I can't. Can you name 2 or 3?
- TedDoesntTalk 4y agoAs an outsider, it also seems the different subcultures mix now. In the 80s, you would never see some of these groups mingling together. But do they today? Honest question.
- swayvil 4y agoRe : honest question. That might be called a whiff of subculture. That assumption that a question is a feint and a conversation is a fight. That paranoia. That's a new and ubiquitous thing. Strong basis for... some kind of cultural formation.