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The quote that stuck with me is: "But people addicted to drugs come from all over the country in part for the services San Francisco provides." So, because ot

by rob74 4y ago

The quote that stuck with me is: "But people addicted to drugs come from all over the country in part for the services San Francisco provides." So, because other cities are tough on drugs (including the famous "three strikes" laws where you can receive a life sentence if you get caught with drugs three times), and San Francisco treats drug addicts more humanely, drug addicts from all over the US tend to migrate to San Francisco. Making the citizens of the city miserable. Hmmm...

areyousure 4y ago
In case anyone is curious, California is one of the (majority of) states with three strike laws: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114301025 https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114301... (But within the state, San Francisco County is indeed perhaps the laxest with regards to sentencing.)
- cudgy 4y ago
  Three strikes was part of a Clinton led crime bill passed in the 90’s by a tough on crime Democratic Party. Supported enthusiastically by Republicans as well of course — a “team effort”.
gunshai 4y ago
I am not this far into the article yet, but here is something that has always stuck with me written by the guardian about bussing. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/20/bussed-out-america-moves-homeless-people-country-study https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/... The article was written back in ~2016~(the end of 2017),it really needs to be revisited, but the sentiment of "go to where there are services for your problem" does indeed exist.
cudgy 4y ago
Leaving mentally insane (temporarily due to drug use or permanently) people to rot on the street next to a trailer with showers, sack lunches, and an endless supply of clean needles is more humane than placing them in custody with a slim possibility of getting sober? Not everyone is able to ask for help; sometimes there needs to be an intervention.

by rob74 4y ago

areyousure 4y ago

In case anyone is curious, California is one of the (majority of) states with three strike laws: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114301025 https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114301... (But within the state, San Francisco County is indeed perhaps the laxest with regards to sentencing.)

cudgy 4y ago
Three strikes was part of a Clinton led crime bill passed in the 90’s by a tough on crime Democratic Party. Supported enthusiastically by Republicans as well of course — a “team effort”.

gunshai 4y ago

I am not this far into the article yet, but here is something that has always stuck with me written by the guardian about bussing. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/20/bussed-out-america-moves-homeless-people-country-study https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/... The article was written back in ~2016~(the end of 2017),it really needs to be revisited, but the sentiment of "go to where there are services for your problem" does indeed exist.

cudgy 4y ago

Leaving mentally insane (temporarily due to drug use or permanently) people to rot on the street next to a trailer with showers, sack lunches, and an endless supply of clean needles is more humane than placing them in custody with a slim possibility of getting sober? Not everyone is able to ask for help; sometimes there needs to be an intervention.