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>because good contracts would be impossible to write and impossible to maintain Airline pilots have notoriously complicated union contracts, but it seems to wo
by tyingq 4y ago
>because good contracts would be impossible to write and impossible to maintain
Airline pilots have notoriously complicated union contracts, but it seems to work for them.
Edit: An example...~500 pages: https://crewroom.alpa.org/ual/DesktopModules/ViewDocument.aspx?DocumentID=43832 https://crewroom.alpa.org/ual/DesktopModules/ViewDocument.as...
Police unions might be a good counter example for your idea that it might get too complicated. There's no contract clauses there related to the quality of their work, crime rates, etc.
- gitfan86 4y agoPolice Unions are a good example of contracts being a disaster for the customer "tax payer".
- tyingq 4y agoYeah, I wasn't saying they were good for society. But they do seem to be good for individual police officers.
- gitfan86 4y agoYes, the downside for the average person is that they cannot get any of those jobs because the union only hires via corruption or nepotism
- justapassenger 4y agoTheir “customers” deal with monopoly, that you’ll be imprisoned for life or killed if you’d like to challenge it. There’s 0 value in comparing police to tech workers.
- tyingq 4y ago>There’s 0 value in comparing police to tech workers. It's a little more nuanced than that. The point was that a union doesn't necessarily need to please the company/agency, so contractual language around project completion, etc, may not be needed. Company pleasing language/rules/etc in a union contract would only be there because the union didn't have leverage for it not to be.