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Lived in SF for ~12 years. 8 years in the Mission. > Is my perspective skewed by the sources I'm reading or have things really deteriorated to that extent? SF
by arcticbull 4y ago
Lived in SF for ~12 years. 8 years in the Mission.
> Is my perspective skewed by the sources I'm reading or have things really deteriorated to that extent?
SF has always been a mess, for the entire decade I've been here. I used to walk to/from work along Mission. Over the last 10 years, things got a lot better - 16th/Mission was unsafe. Most of the mission used to literally smell like a toilet.
You couldn't walk between 5th and 7th along Market. I once watched a lady in a wheelchair chasing someone down the street. She was rolling as fast as she could with one hand, and holding a knife out in front of her with the other while the guy ran.
Crime was always an issue. The planters along the street with the trees used to be a prime place to drop used heroin needles. Like, you could occasionally stumble on a planter with 5-10 used hypodermic needs in it. On Market.
The mid-Mission and Capp area used to run thick with prostitutes.
I don't see nearly as much of this anymore. It got worse in the midst of COVID, but petered out. I think the quantity of all the above issues went down, but so did the population. As such, the albeit lower crime stands out more. And SF is such a transient city that the people complaining about it now (rightly, imo) didn't see how bad it was because they weren't here.
[edit] It's bad - but it's not any worse now than before. There's a lot of great reasons to live here too though! It's so pretty, great food, bars, activities, it's small, walkable, bikeable. I know a ton of folks here so it's kind of hard to leave now, heh.
- jeffbee 4y ago> You couldn't walk between 5th and 7th along Market. I walked down Market back and forth from New Montgomery to Guerrero every day for work for many years. It is not true that there was some impassable section of Market. Most of the people out on the street were just normal people. It is true though that there are now places you literally cannot walk down the street because the sidewalk encampments are so thickly settled that there's no space to pass. For example the west side of Folsom between 14th and 15th. They keep clearing the encampment but it just comes right back.
- arcticbull 4y agoI think that's fair, but I suspect we can agree that the stretch along 6th between Mission and Market has long been just about the worst part of town.