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I am not understanding the article. Someone tried to install a particular type of glass and were told no? Why is this even a thing? I can install whatever I

I am not understanding the article. Someone tried to install a particular type of glass and were told no? Why is this even a thing? I can install whatever I want in a commercial building provided it meets building codes and I can install literally anything in my home. Is there more context behind what is going on?

belltaco 4y ago
The glass also protects a malicious shooter or burglar etc. who uses the bullet proof glass as cover from cops or good guys being able to shoot them while they're committing crimes.
rob74 4y ago
Well, the article gives some reasons for the "anti-bulletproof glass" sentiment: > The original motivation for the ban was apparently that such barriers were seen by some as "an indignity" (perhaps with a racial dimension, since many of the customers of the stores are black and many of the owners and employees are Asian). Also, as a tourist, if you see e.g. policemen with machine guns instead of regular (or no) guns, or police cars looking like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Tangi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Tangi instead of regular cars, does that make you feel safer, or does it make you want to avoid that area in the future? And I can imagine seeing bulletproof glass in all stores you visit has a similar effect...
- starkd 4y ago
  Calling it an "indignity (perhaps with a racial dimension)" seems to me to be a classic case of mind reading another's motivations. There is a much more obvious motivation that is more than plausible: the desire to not get shot.
  - fallinghawks 4y ago
    Bulletproof glass will protect from all attackers regardless of their race. It's really reading in too far to say it's anti-Black; this feels like it means to pit Asians and Blacks against each other.
- LinuxBender 4y ago
  Is this a case of a silly law on the books or was there an incident where someone was blocked from installing a particular type of glass? I ask in good faith because all fifty states have a myriad of silly laws on the books or silly things codified into their state constitutions, most of which are not enforced. The issue for me would be if a silly law were being selectively enforced. If this is a case of a silly law on the books that is easy for the governor to solve. "For every one new law you want me to sign, the state must nullify at least two of the laws on this list of silly laws." Or in the case of a state constitution everyone follows a process to amend or ratify changes to remove or negate the silly statutes.
  - gruez 4y ago
    >Is this a case of a silly law on the books or was there an incident where someone was blocked from installing a particular type of glass? It can hardly be called a "silly law on the books " when the law was enacted 5 years ago.
    - LinuxBender 4y ago
      I don't want to downplay such things but I am curious if this is a case where some politician was trying to appease some group of constituents or are they actually enforcing this? What happens when someone breaks this law? Must the windows be removed? Will the owners be fined daily? Who is enforcing this law? I ask because similar things are occurring as we speak with body armor. Canada and the US are trying to make it illegal for anyone outside of law enforcement to buy body armor. It's silly of course, since anyone that has any sewing knowledge can easily make a plate carrier and anyone can get plates of steel cut to fit the plate carrier decorated with kittens. One could even use books instead of steel plates as Demolition Ranch demonstrated.

belltaco 4y ago

The glass also protects a malicious shooter or burglar etc. who uses the bullet proof glass as cover from cops or good guys being able to shoot them while they're committing crimes.

rob74 4y ago

Well, the article gives some reasons for the "anti-bulletproof glass" sentiment: > The original motivation for the ban was apparently that such barriers were seen by some as "an indignity" (perhaps with a racial dimension, since many of the customers of the stores are black and many of the owners and employees are Asian). Also, as a tourist, if you see e.g. policemen with machine guns instead of regular (or no) guns, or police cars looking like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Tangi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Tangi instead of regular cars, does that make you feel safer, or does it make you want to avoid that area in the future? And I can imagine seeing bulletproof glass in all stores you visit has a similar effect...

starkd 4y ago
Calling it an "indignity (perhaps with a racial dimension)" seems to me to be a classic case of mind reading another's motivations. There is a much more obvious motivation that is more than plausible: the desire to not get shot.
- fallinghawks 4y ago
  Bulletproof glass will protect from all attackers regardless of their race. It's really reading in too far to say it's anti-Black; this feels like it means to pit Asians and Blacks against each other.
LinuxBender 4y ago
Is this a case of a silly law on the books or was there an incident where someone was blocked from installing a particular type of glass? I ask in good faith because all fifty states have a myriad of silly laws on the books or silly things codified into their state constitutions, most of which are not enforced. The issue for me would be if a silly law were being selectively enforced. If this is a case of a silly law on the books that is easy for the governor to solve. "For every one new law you want me to sign, the state must nullify at least two of the laws on this list of silly laws." Or in the case of a state constitution everyone follows a process to amend or ratify changes to remove or negate the silly statutes.
- gruez 4y ago
  >Is this a case of a silly law on the books or was there an incident where someone was blocked from installing a particular type of glass? It can hardly be called a "silly law on the books " when the law was enacted 5 years ago.
  - LinuxBender 4y ago
    I don't want to downplay such things but I am curious if this is a case where some politician was trying to appease some group of constituents or are they actually enforcing this? What happens when someone breaks this law? Must the windows be removed? Will the owners be fined daily? Who is enforcing this law? I ask because similar things are occurring as we speak with body armor. Canada and the US are trying to make it illegal for anyone outside of law enforcement to buy body armor. It's silly of course, since anyone that has any sewing knowledge can easily make a plate carrier and anyone can get plates of steel cut to fit the plate carrier decorated with kittens. One could even use books instead of steel plates as Demolition Ranch demonstrated.