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It's amazing how many people who otherwise believe in data driven decision making got caught up in the hype/fear of this recall instead of looking at the data a

It's amazing how many people who otherwise believe in data driven decision making got caught up in the hype/fear of this recall instead of looking at the data and otherwise trying to reason at the system level. (ie Why do they never mention the police work stoppage?) https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/bayarea/heatherknight/article/SF-police-crime-16931399.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/bayarea/heatherknight/article... I wonder if all the pro-recallers will use stats to say the next DA is doing a good job, or if the data will start mattering then? If the new DA's stats stay mostly the same or get worse, will they recall their own DA because they believe in effectiveness, or was this whole recall movement was just full of shit? I'm not optimistic changing DAs will do anything to improve safety or increase quality of life in SF, especially with the recession coming. I just hope that people who claim to "still support criminal justice reform" actually vote like that, because I'm betting they vote for people unwilling to make the hard / unpopular decisions to enact real reforms, who instead talk reform while continue the status quo. All of this is also just window dressing on an otherwise broken social safety net that leaves us with a large / desperate underclass who commit most of the crime. We're never going to arrest our way out of this, and likely unable to solve a lot of it with reform alone. We need real change to our social contract in the USA, but we can barely pass things that are already broadly popular. Easy to be pessimistic...

zanderz 4y ago
San Francisco has had all the problems being blamed on the DA for decades. Things got worse during the pandemic in most cities, regardless of what DA they had. People act like Boudin personally emptied out the jails and stopped prosecuting anyone for anything but this is a ridiculous charicature - as you point out, the actual data says otherwise. He was enacting some reforms promised to us voters, and attempting to hold police more accountable turned out to be an outrageous notion to some. It hardly rose to the emergency people pretend it did, and for which the recall mechanism is intended. Far worse to me is that the police can do as they please and simply stop doing their job and get away with blaming someone else for the result. The recall process is being twisted into a do-over for wealthy interests who don't like an election result.

zanderz 4y ago

San Francisco has had all the problems being blamed on the DA for decades. Things got worse during the pandemic in most cities, regardless of what DA they had. People act like Boudin personally emptied out the jails and stopped prosecuting anyone for anything but this is a ridiculous charicature - as you point out, the actual data says otherwise. He was enacting some reforms promised to us voters, and attempting to hold police more accountable turned out to be an outrageous notion to some. It hardly rose to the emergency people pretend it did, and for which the recall mechanism is intended. Far worse to me is that the police can do as they please and simply stop doing their job and get away with blaming someone else for the result. The recall process is being twisted into a do-over for wealthy interests who don't like an election result.