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>My friends and I have all made a pact that we will vote Republican until the Dems come more to the center, no matter how horrible the Republicans candidate is.

>My friends and I have all made a pact that we will vote Republican until the Dems come more to the center, no matter how horrible the Republicans candidate is. This is an extremely dangerous position to take. You are literally willing to vote Hitler into office rather than a progressive?

tyen_ 4y ago
Let me know when Adolf Hitler literally runs for office in the United States.
voidfunc 4y ago
Better dead than red (progressive/communist) is a statement a lot of people would agree with in the US.
- adamsmith143 4y ago
  A lot of people in the US would also be completely wrong. Progressives != communist and if anyone seriously thinks people in the Mainstream of the Democratic party are actually communist they are insane.
rojcyk 4y ago
That is a huge stretch.
- adamsmith143 4y ago
  >That is a huge stretch. Is it though? "we will vote Republican until the Dems come more to the center, no matter how horrible the Republicans candidate is." No matter how horrible.
- Bud 4y ago
  Anyone who thinks this is a stretch needs to be watching the Jan. 6th hearings tomorrow night. We came within a hair of a fascist takeover of the US in 2021. That threat is now stronger than it has ever been.
  - dpbriggs 4y ago
    It wasn't even close. Life isn't a movie or a video game; if you take over a building, you don't take over the government. Even if it escalated past that point (i.e. Trump messing around) there wasn't key buy-in from several necessary parties. How in the world was it "close"?
    - ModernMech 4y ago
      I urge you to please watch the hearings. What has been learned in the intervening months since the coup attempt is that it was premeditated, and the insurrection at the capitol was only one facet in a multifaceted plan to end democracy in America. The narratives that have been established by pro-insurrectionists -- that it was peaceful, that is wasn't a big deal, that it was spontaneous, that it wasn't planned, that the White House wasn't involved, that there were no guns, that it couldn't have ended democracy even in the worst case -- have all been shown by the committee to be false. How in the world was it close? You answered the question yourself: all that was missing was key buy-in from several necessary parties. Namely: Pence, several low-level elections clerks, and several secretaries of state. Republicans have been working to replace these individuals with insurrectionist since 2020, and to also change laws where they were thwarted before (see the Georgia GOP's new ability to completely take over and throw out independent county elections where they don't like the results.) The plan would have most certainly worked if Pence had left the Capitol on Jan 6. Grassley would have taken over Pence's duties, and he would have refused to certify the election. At that point, the vote would have eventually ended up at the House, with one vote allocated per state delegation. With Republicans in the majority of delegations, they would have installed Trump as president against the will of the people, thereby ending 200+ years of American democracy. The plan was very complex, it was thought of by very smart and powerful people, it was executed with the explicit intention of ending democracy in America by people at the highest level of government, and thankfully it ultimately failed. Yet, it almost succeeded and we must take note that they only had 2 months to prepare. Next time they will have had 4 years. So please, for the love of country, watch every second of the 1/6 committee hearings. Please.
      - dpbriggs 4y ago
z9e 4y ago
This is hilarious considering progressives in the 1930s praised Hitler as one of their own. Find a new talking point, 2016 was 6 years ago.
Jerrrry 4y ago
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tyen_ 4y ago

Let me know when Adolf Hitler literally runs for office in the United States.

voidfunc 4y ago

Better dead than red (progressive/communist) is a statement a lot of people would agree with in the US.

adamsmith143 4y ago
A lot of people in the US would also be completely wrong. Progressives != communist and if anyone seriously thinks people in the Mainstream of the Democratic party are actually communist they are insane.

rojcyk 4y ago

That is a huge stretch.

adamsmith143 4y ago
>That is a huge stretch. Is it though? "we will vote Republican until the Dems come more to the center, no matter how horrible the Republicans candidate is." No matter how horrible.
Bud 4y ago
Anyone who thinks this is a stretch needs to be watching the Jan. 6th hearings tomorrow night. We came within a hair of a fascist takeover of the US in 2021. That threat is now stronger than it has ever been.
- dpbriggs 4y ago
  It wasn't even close. Life isn't a movie or a video game; if you take over a building, you don't take over the government. Even if it escalated past that point (i.e. Trump messing around) there wasn't key buy-in from several necessary parties. How in the world was it "close"?
  - ModernMech 4y ago
    I urge you to please watch the hearings. What has been learned in the intervening months since the coup attempt is that it was premeditated, and the insurrection at the capitol was only one facet in a multifaceted plan to end democracy in America. The narratives that have been established by pro-insurrectionists -- that it was peaceful, that is wasn't a big deal, that it was spontaneous, that it wasn't planned, that the White House wasn't involved, that there were no guns, that it couldn't have ended democracy even in the worst case -- have all been shown by the committee to be false. How in the world was it close? You answered the question yourself: all that was missing was key buy-in from several necessary parties. Namely: Pence, several low-level elections clerks, and several secretaries of state. Republicans have been working to replace these individuals with insurrectionist since 2020, and to also change laws where they were thwarted before (see the Georgia GOP's new ability to completely take over and throw out independent county elections where they don't like the results.) The plan would have most certainly worked if Pence had left the Capitol on Jan 6. Grassley would have taken over Pence's duties, and he would have refused to certify the election. At that point, the vote would have eventually ended up at the House, with one vote allocated per state delegation. With Republicans in the majority of delegations, they would have installed Trump as president against the will of the people, thereby ending 200+ years of American democracy. The plan was very complex, it was thought of by very smart and powerful people, it was executed with the explicit intention of ending democracy in America by people at the highest level of government, and thankfully it ultimately failed. Yet, it almost succeeded and we must take note that they only had 2 months to prepare. Next time they will have had 4 years. So please, for the love of country, watch every second of the 1/6 committee hearings. Please.
    - dpbriggs 4y ago

z9e 4y ago

This is hilarious considering progressives in the 1930s praised Hitler as one of their own. Find a new talking point, 2016 was 6 years ago.

Jerrrry 4y ago

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