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In Berlin I literally trip over them as soon as I leave the house. I think the companies are intentionally blocking sidewalks as a sales tactic. They are also u

by ls15 4y ago

In Berlin I literally trip over them as soon as I leave the house. I think the companies are intentionally blocking sidewalks as a sales tactic. They are also useless for me, because I have my own bicycle, I don't like their pricing model (incentivizes reckless driving and parking) and I haven't found an option yet that is privacy-friendly. That they can use (block) the sidewalks as free ad space for their business seems to be a loophole that is just not patched yet.

consp 4y ago
If I find one which is parked wrong (almost all) I move them over next to a garbage bin or put them onto the street since then they will be fined but not when parked on the sidewalk. They use public space for private gain and block sidewalks, I have no incentive not to screw with them.
- throw__away7391 4y ago
  Yeah, when I find a car parked wrong (almost all) I key the paint. I have no incentive not to screw with them.
  - ls15 4y ago
    There is this guy who gets wrongfully parked cars towed by the police. https://taz.de/Berliner-Aktivist-ueber-Falschparker/!5760190/ https://taz.de/Berliner-Aktivist-ueber-Falschparker/!5760190... The recovery is probably more expensive than a small paint job though...
    - throw__away7391 4y ago
      > The recovery is probably more expensive than a small paint job though... So just to be clear, I'd never do this! But people who feel quite entitled to destroy property (OP's example of moving is mild, many people brag about throwing them in rivers/trash, etc.) tend to also get extremely upset about some random person keying their car.
      - ls15 4y ago
        > OP's example of moving is mild Moving a scooter that is parked in the middle of the sidewalk is more constructive than destructive, because it unblocks other taxpayers without destroying anything. The scooter is still functional and shiny, just not parked prominently anymore. I've seen a scooter that was thrown on a car's windshield, but that's something else and definitely not mild.
        throw__away7391 4y ago
        > I move them over next to a garbage bin or put them onto the street since then they will be fined Well it sounded to me the like the OP is not only attempting to harm the company but also unrelated third parties. A scooter in the street sounds much more dangerous besides.
  - consp 4y ago
    It's always nice to spot a bad argument when someone is comparing a harmless action to a harmful one, since in my example only the end result was changed from not fining them when they should have been to actually fining them. These things are not allowed on sidewalks and the fine is the same for all vehicles regardless of type.

by ls15 4y ago

consp 4y ago

If I find one which is parked wrong (almost all) I move them over next to a garbage bin or put them onto the street since then they will be fined but not when parked on the sidewalk. They use public space for private gain and block sidewalks, I have no incentive not to screw with them.

throw__away7391 4y ago
Yeah, when I find a car parked wrong (almost all) I key the paint. I have no incentive not to screw with them.
- ls15 4y ago
  There is this guy who gets wrongfully parked cars towed by the police. https://taz.de/Berliner-Aktivist-ueber-Falschparker/!5760190/ https://taz.de/Berliner-Aktivist-ueber-Falschparker/!5760190... The recovery is probably more expensive than a small paint job though...
  - throw__away7391 4y ago
    > The recovery is probably more expensive than a small paint job though... So just to be clear, I'd never do this! But people who feel quite entitled to destroy property (OP's example of moving is mild, many people brag about throwing them in rivers/trash, etc.) tend to also get extremely upset about some random person keying their car.
    - ls15 4y ago
      > OP's example of moving is mild Moving a scooter that is parked in the middle of the sidewalk is more constructive than destructive, because it unblocks other taxpayers without destroying anything. The scooter is still functional and shiny, just not parked prominently anymore. I've seen a scooter that was thrown on a car's windshield, but that's something else and definitely not mild.
      - throw__away7391 4y ago
        > I move them over next to a garbage bin or put them onto the street since then they will be fined Well it sounded to me the like the OP is not only attempting to harm the company but also unrelated third parties. A scooter in the street sounds much more dangerous besides.
- consp 4y ago
  It's always nice to spot a bad argument when someone is comparing a harmless action to a harmful one, since in my example only the end result was changed from not fining them when they should have been to actually fining them. These things are not allowed on sidewalks and the fine is the same for all vehicles regardless of type.