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Does this person have a family and kids? I don’t see how anyone can do this unless they contribute nothing to their families or extended families. Sounds to m
by j7ake 4y ago
Does this person have a family and kids?
I don’t see how anyone can do this unless they contribute nothing to their families or extended families.
Sounds to me like a very selfish view of life. Most people in the world have either ailing parents and/or spouse and kids to take care of.
- uwagar 4y agoself-ish is not a bad thing.
- j7ake 4y agoSelfish behaviour only works because the rest of society on aggregate are still contributing to the maintenance, development, and research of a multigenerational civilisation.
- msftie 4y agoA society in which almost all are working not out of pure altruism, but out of necessity to satisfy their own selfish needs.
- Elinvynia 4y agoI don't believe it's very selfish to want to avoid starvation and to have a roof over your head.
- Goronmon 4y agoSelfish behaviour only works because the rest of society on aggregate are still contributing to the maintenance, development, and research of a multigenerational civilisation. And those people only make those contributions out of a selfish desire to keep their environment from changing and for their own self-satisfaction of "making a difference".
- MacsHeadroom 4y agoNot having a W2 job isn't the same as not earning a living. They earned enough to pay off their house and all debts in full. They now create and sell games and other software as a solo dev.
- yodsanklai 4y ago> Sounds to me like a very selfish view of life It's not selfish not to have kids. And in western countries, spouses/parents can take care of themselves financially.
- j7ake 4y agoWhat fraction of Americans nearing retirement age can actually comfortably retire ?
- 21723 4y agoI'd argue that, while it may not be selfish to have kids, most people who are having kids do it for selfish reasons. They don't want to "die alone". They want to show that they can afford it. They want to vicariously get into Harvard and work in publishing (if traditional publishing still exists in the 2040s at all) and live some imagined high life... even though the probabilities are minuscule and most children are going to inherit a world even shittier than the one we were stuck with. I don't think I'll have kids. It's the one vote I've got. Why would I stake anything I care about on a society that will almost certainly fail them?
- kettleballroll 4y agoWhoa, that's a lot of super weird assumptions you're making. Fwiw, neither myself nor any other parent i ever met even gets in the remote vicinity of the picture you're painting. It sounds to me like you just have shitty parent-friends in your bubble? But rest assured that there a legion of other parents out there who neither got kids because they're afraid to die alone nor want to force their own wishes and life goals onto them. In my experience, kids can be exhausting at times, and take a lot of dedication and time that you could otherwise spend on selfish persuits, so having kids for selfish reasons sounds insanely misguided to me. It's rather that despite all those sacrifices, kids enrich your life, and they allow tremendous opportunity for self-growth and a host of experiences that are hard to replicate otherwise.
- hugg 4y agoI mean most people (like you) seem to justify having kids in a selfish way (self-growth, experiences). As someone who doesn't want my own kids (but like kids and spend time with them), I feel no need to have my own
- CalRobert 4y agoIf they don't have dependents, I don't see how it's selfish? Of course, if they do, and they're offloading the burden on to other people (a partner who now has to take up more work on their own, for instance) then that's different.