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- High performance - Scripting language Pick one.

cies 4y ago
Not entirely true. https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks Has entries for JS and PHP quick high in the ranks.
- ceeplusplus 4y ago
  The only JS entry I see in the top 20 uses a custom JS runtime that has "no support for ES modules". Not exactly a production ready application.
  - woojoo666 4y ago
    Still high performance scripting though?
  - capableweb 4y ago
    That's moving the goal post though. The argument was "High performance != Any Scripting language", which is clearly not true.
  - Tade0 4y ago
    PHP achieves a decent 40% in the composite score table though: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r20&hw=ph&test=composite https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r20&hw=... I suppose you'd need to have Facebook-level scale for infrastructure to cost more than development in a "faster" language.
- aphexairlines 4y ago
  There's a super interesting article from the just-js author explaining how he got a JS implementation into that top 20: https://just.billywhizz.io/blog/on-javascript-performance-01/ https://just.billywhizz.io/blog/on-javascript-performance-01...
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aziaziazi 4y ago
High performance as “minimal performance cost on your actual js environnement” ?
- primering 4y ago
  Yes, that is what is meant, also in terms of development speed. Of course, there will always be faster implementations in other languages, but in context of JavaScript/TypeScript, it's high performance. In the introduction blog post can be seen more about why this is: https://deepkit.io/blog/introducing-deepkit-framework https://deepkit.io/blog/introducing-deepkit-framework
Zababa 4y ago
For me, "high-performance TypeScript framework" implies that it's high-performance compared to other TypeScript frameworks rather than high-performance period. In the benchmark pages (https://deepkit.io/benchmarks https://deepkit.io/benchmarks), the components of the framework are compared to other TypeScript libraries, which seems to support my theory. But your interpretation is valid too, I think. English is a second language for me so I'm not sure if this is something up for debate or not.
vijaybritto 4y ago
This is not always true. I recommend looking at Bun.js (https://bun.sh https://bun.sh) and following its creator Jarred Sumner on Twitter (@jarredsumner)
- vore 4y ago
  This is just a bundler, no?
  - mkl 4y ago
    It's also written in Zig, not a scripting language, so that can't be what they mean either.

cies 4y ago

Not entirely true. https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks Has entries for JS and PHP quick high in the ranks.

ceeplusplus 4y ago
The only JS entry I see in the top 20 uses a custom JS runtime that has "no support for ES modules". Not exactly a production ready application.
- woojoo666 4y ago
  Still high performance scripting though?
- capableweb 4y ago
  That's moving the goal post though. The argument was "High performance != Any Scripting language", which is clearly not true.
- Tade0 4y ago
  PHP achieves a decent 40% in the composite score table though: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r20&hw=ph&test=composite https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r20&hw=... I suppose you'd need to have Facebook-level scale for infrastructure to cost more than development in a "faster" language.
aphexairlines 4y ago
There's a super interesting article from the just-js author explaining how he got a JS implementation into that top 20: https://just.billywhizz.io/blog/on-javascript-performance-01/ https://just.billywhizz.io/blog/on-javascript-performance-01...

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aziaziazi 4y ago

High performance as “minimal performance cost on your actual js environnement” ?

primering 4y ago
Yes, that is what is meant, also in terms of development speed. Of course, there will always be faster implementations in other languages, but in context of JavaScript/TypeScript, it's high performance. In the introduction blog post can be seen more about why this is: https://deepkit.io/blog/introducing-deepkit-framework https://deepkit.io/blog/introducing-deepkit-framework

Zababa 4y ago

For me, "high-performance TypeScript framework" implies that it's high-performance compared to other TypeScript frameworks rather than high-performance period. In the benchmark pages (https://deepkit.io/benchmarks https://deepkit.io/benchmarks), the components of the framework are compared to other TypeScript libraries, which seems to support my theory. But your interpretation is valid too, I think. English is a second language for me so I'm not sure if this is something up for debate or not.

vijaybritto 4y ago

This is not always true. I recommend looking at Bun.js (https://bun.sh https://bun.sh) and following its creator Jarred Sumner on Twitter (@jarredsumner)

vore 4y ago
This is just a bundler, no?
- mkl 4y ago
  It's also written in Zig, not a scripting language, so that can't be what they mean either.