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I don't like what I've heard about Boudin at all, but can someone explain how the 40% who supported Boudin might feel about this? What is their motivation? Is i

I don't like what I've heard about Boudin at all, but can someone explain how the 40% who supported Boudin might feel about this? What is their motivation? Is it as simple as not worrying too much about crime and believing Boudin's approach is justified?

ryanobjc 4y ago
Can you explain why you want to do the other thing, when the results aren't really working?
jacobolus 4y ago
It’s a gross abuse of the recall process. Recalls should be reserved for flagrant abuses of power, egregious ethical lapses, or profound incompetence. If voters are just unhappy with an elected official, they should follow the normal election process. The SF DA is up for a routine election in November of 2023. Turning recalls into a routine part of politics, where billionaire-backed activists can try to dump a bunch of money into advertising and redo every election they didn’t like the outcome of, in low-turnout primaries or special elections, ends up costing the city a fortune and distorting the ordinary political process.
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- native_samples 4y ago
  Presumably the people who voted for the recall believe he's guilty of all three of those. Certainly, a prosecutor who refuses to prosecute criminals could be described as engaging in profound incompetence. It's hard to get worse at doing your job than outright refusing to do it.
remarkEon 4y ago
I didn't really know anything about him beyond all the media the last year calling him the "Progressive DA in San Francisco" ... and then I read his wikipedia page and WEW. I'm genuinely gobsmacked that a) people are surprised he behaved the way he did as DA and b) that some actually thought it was a good idea to elect a communist as chief law enforcement officer. Maybe don't do that? In any case, this is a rare but good story about democracy's fail safe mechanisms kicking in.
- zozbot234 4y ago
  > that some actually thought it was a good idea to elect a communist as chief law enforcement officer. Blame the "tough on crime" crowd for that. They thought he'd be putting everyone in gulags, like any proper communist would.
  - remarkEon 4y ago
    There are "tough on crime" people in San Francisco?
    - tatersolid 4y ago
      There are now.
somethoughts 4y ago
Speaking in general terms, its likely due to low voter primary turnout. The change side of the party (the progressive side) is much more organized since they are attempting to challenge the status quo and therefore have much more recently put in place infrastructure to get out the vote (perhaps peaking in response to the tech influx/peak BLM/Trump) to get Chesa in. The incumbents are generally properly larger but largely apathetic/too busy trying to afford SF rent - unless things go too far in the wrong direction. I think the recent attempts by the newly installed progressives at renaming schools (while the schools were closed for covid), changing the admissions to the magnet school to be non-test based, etc. - led to some infrastructure being built among the moderate, middle class family democratic voting base - particularly on the western side (Richmond/Sunset) which is mostly Asian. The fact that the media reported a lot of Anti-Asian crime in SF that Chesa didn't seem to do much about - probably fit well with this newly organized group.

ryanobjc 4y ago

Can you explain why you want to do the other thing, when the results aren't really working?

jacobolus 4y ago

It’s a gross abuse of the recall process. Recalls should be reserved for flagrant abuses of power, egregious ethical lapses, or profound incompetence. If voters are just unhappy with an elected official, they should follow the normal election process. The SF DA is up for a routine election in November of 2023. Turning recalls into a routine part of politics, where billionaire-backed activists can try to dump a bunch of money into advertising and redo every election they didn’t like the outcome of, in low-turnout primaries or special elections, ends up costing the city a fortune and distorting the ordinary political process.

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native_samples 4y ago
Presumably the people who voted for the recall believe he's guilty of all three of those. Certainly, a prosecutor who refuses to prosecute criminals could be described as engaging in profound incompetence. It's hard to get worse at doing your job than outright refusing to do it.

remarkEon 4y ago

I didn't really know anything about him beyond all the media the last year calling him the "Progressive DA in San Francisco" ... and then I read his wikipedia page and WEW. I'm genuinely gobsmacked that a) people are surprised he behaved the way he did as DA and b) that some actually thought it was a good idea to elect a communist as chief law enforcement officer. Maybe don't do that? In any case, this is a rare but good story about democracy's fail safe mechanisms kicking in.

zozbot234 4y ago
> that some actually thought it was a good idea to elect a communist as chief law enforcement officer. Blame the "tough on crime" crowd for that. They thought he'd be putting everyone in gulags, like any proper communist would.
- remarkEon 4y ago
  There are "tough on crime" people in San Francisco?
  - tatersolid 4y ago
    There are now.

somethoughts 4y ago

Speaking in general terms, its likely due to low voter primary turnout. The change side of the party (the progressive side) is much more organized since they are attempting to challenge the status quo and therefore have much more recently put in place infrastructure to get out the vote (perhaps peaking in response to the tech influx/peak BLM/Trump) to get Chesa in. The incumbents are generally properly larger but largely apathetic/too busy trying to afford SF rent - unless things go too far in the wrong direction. I think the recent attempts by the newly installed progressives at renaming schools (while the schools were closed for covid), changing the admissions to the magnet school to be non-test based, etc. - led to some infrastructure being built among the moderate, middle class family democratic voting base - particularly on the western side (Richmond/Sunset) which is mostly Asian. The fact that the media reported a lot of Anti-Asian crime in SF that Chesa didn't seem to do much about - probably fit well with this newly organized group.