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It's because the ideas come from early 20th Russian bolshevism. It's an application of Marxism to race so you can't be "racist" towards White people because the

• camdat 4y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_th...
  • usrn 4y ago
    It's a conspiracy theory until it turns out to be an actual conspiracy. Just because they're right wing doesn't mean they're wrong. Most "normal" people in the US are pretty far to the right (and for good reasons as we can see here.)
    • camdat 4y ago
      >The conspiracy theory of a Marxist culture war is promoted by right-wing politicians, fundamentalist religious leaders, political commentators in mainstream print and television media, and white supremacist terrorists,[8] and has been described as "a foundational element of the alt-right worldview".[9] Scholarly analysis of the conspiracy theory has concluded that it has no basis in fact.
      • boppo1 4y ago
        You're proving his point.
        • camdat 4y ago
          He edited his comment to include the additional information. I assume that's easier than confronting that his worldview "has no basis in fact"
          • boppo1 4y ago
            No, I was referring to the subtle implication that he belongs to or identifies with one or more of the following groups: >right-wing politicians, fundamentalist religious leaders, political commentators in mainstream print and television media, and white supremacist terrorists Which is basically dismissing his argument by calling him a racist. Instead you should quantify how different the situation at hand is than bolshevism or marxism. This would help people who have less information one way or the other to identify the truth more easily.
          • usrn 4y ago
            I would have rather replied but because I participate in these sorts of discussions from this side I'm often not allowed to.
            • camdat 4y ago
              And when you say this side, you're referring to the side with no basis in fact? What a self-own
• poulpy123 4y ago
  Lol what the fuck are you saying ? Bolchevism was a white men thing like almost any political movement at this time. The idea that you can't be racist against white people is much more recent and it's popularity if not the concept itself comes from the USA
  • native_samples 4y ago
    Bolshevism/communism was or is a worldview that divides the population into oppressors and the oppressed. There's no middle ground or nuance allowed in this concept - everyone is in one of those two camps. The modern variant is that everyone is either "white" or "minority", but these labels have nothing really to do with race despite surface level appearances. They're just relabelings of the same old ideas. That's why the immediate reaction when you point out the illegal racism of woke people is they say "you can't be racist against white people because they're in power". That makes zero sense when interpreted literally because it's a direct statement of Bolshevik ideology, just with s/capitalist oppressors/white people/. The original formulation was wrong but at least coherent, whereas the modern formulation is completely nonsensical. That's why so many people understand that the word "white" doesn't mean the skin color. It means anyone who stands opposed to leftism. If you look at how black conservatives are treated you can see this immediately. Just a few weeks ago a black pastor in the Church of England was fired (by a bunch of old white men) because he insisted that England wasn't in fact institutionally racist. By arguing that, he made himself unapologetically "white" in the eyes of the woke bishops and thus they had no moral difficulty with firing him. This sort of thing is commonplace.
  • usrn 4y ago
    Only if you count jews as White.