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> You have not worked for 2.5 years. That is a big gap and you need to be explain it well. God forbid people save up a bunch of money and decide to not work fo

> You have not worked for 2.5 years. That is a big gap and you need to be explain it well. God forbid people save up a bunch of money and decide to not work for a year or two. God forbid people have health issues that keep them from working. God forbid people lose their job, struggle at finding a new one - not because they're incompetent but because they're terrible at job hunting. Or because the job loss triggers mental health issues (which you can't get addressed because you don't have a job and lots of mental health professionals either don't touch anyone on insurance period, or they don't touch people on the subsidized healthcare plans.) Employers: "WE CAN'T FIND ANYONE TO WORK FOR US!" Employee with a 2.5 year gap: "Uh, hi?" Employers: "Not you."

Closi 4y ago
That’s why OP said you will need to explain it well… What you have listed are all perfectly valid explanations.
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mmmpop 4y ago
Your skills have almost certainly deteriorated in that time if they have not been used. I think that is a valid concern from an employer's perspective, don't you?
- yobbo 4y ago
  If the value of the skill has a life-cycle of two years, then precisely how qualified is this job? The problem with a gap is that it "smells" of a "deficient person" that there is no demand for. I think the only solution that actually works is to bullshit through the doubt.
scarface74 4y ago
Employers who want a front end developer can hire a boot camp grad who has more up to date skills.
- spearingthehead 4y ago
  I'll have to work my experience to my advantage, then. Squeeze out every last drop I can get, even if it's not much. Or go for one of those bootcamps. I have to show that I'm still better than less experienced bootcamp grads, because I have not been able to accept that I wasted many years of my life.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    If you haven’t kept up with technology, you probably have. That’s harsh. But it’s not meant to be judgmental. I’ve told the story plenty of times how I became an “expert beginner” by the time I was 35 (I’m 48 now). I was still doing VB6 in 2008 when it was discontinued in 2001. It was until 2016 (at 42) that I had any type of “lead position”. All you can do now is upskill and get current. I couldn’t spell AWS or “cloud” until 2018 (at 44) when I first logged into the console. My first job at any company you have ever heard of was 2 years ago.
    - spearingthehead 4y ago
      Also, the landscape changed a lot since the time you started pivoting at 2008. That's just one year after the time I started my career, competition was less fierce. Now I'm curious it it's become more difficult in the present day for an expert beginner to rebound, when there's far more beginner competition and boot camps are springing up everywhere today. On the other hand, there are also a lot more learning resources online since the late 2000s. Still trying to weigh both things in my head and estimating whether a 2022 expert beginner would be at a net advantage today compared to 14 years ago.
Madmallard 4y ago
Everyone with disadvantages gets victimized by the PVP aspects of our world. It is reality. One must deal with it the best they can. And it is getting worse.
arvinsim 4y ago
> God forbid people save up a bunch of money and decide to not work for a year or two. That's interesting. My assumption is that you would need to work so that you can save a bunch of money.
- OJFord 4y ago
  Like the 11.75y of work that preceded it?
helloworld11 4y ago
Agreed. This is a sick and denigrating attitude to take towards people, who might just maybe, possibly have prolonged lapses of other priorities in life besides improving bottom line value for others during half their day. And it shouldn't need some sort of rigorous justification as if one were a peon who had better make amends for not worshipping "hustle" every year of their damn adult life.

Closi 4y ago

That’s why OP said you will need to explain it well… What you have listed are all perfectly valid explanations.

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mmmpop 4y ago

Your skills have almost certainly deteriorated in that time if they have not been used. I think that is a valid concern from an employer's perspective, don't you?

yobbo 4y ago
If the value of the skill has a life-cycle of two years, then precisely how qualified is this job? The problem with a gap is that it "smells" of a "deficient person" that there is no demand for. I think the only solution that actually works is to bullshit through the doubt.

scarface74 4y ago

Employers who want a front end developer can hire a boot camp grad who has more up to date skills.

spearingthehead 4y ago
I'll have to work my experience to my advantage, then. Squeeze out every last drop I can get, even if it's not much. Or go for one of those bootcamps. I have to show that I'm still better than less experienced bootcamp grads, because I have not been able to accept that I wasted many years of my life.
- scarface74 4y ago
  If you haven’t kept up with technology, you probably have. That’s harsh. But it’s not meant to be judgmental. I’ve told the story plenty of times how I became an “expert beginner” by the time I was 35 (I’m 48 now). I was still doing VB6 in 2008 when it was discontinued in 2001. It was until 2016 (at 42) that I had any type of “lead position”. All you can do now is upskill and get current. I couldn’t spell AWS or “cloud” until 2018 (at 44) when I first logged into the console. My first job at any company you have ever heard of was 2 years ago.
  - spearingthehead 4y ago
    Also, the landscape changed a lot since the time you started pivoting at 2008. That's just one year after the time I started my career, competition was less fierce. Now I'm curious it it's become more difficult in the present day for an expert beginner to rebound, when there's far more beginner competition and boot camps are springing up everywhere today. On the other hand, there are also a lot more learning resources online since the late 2000s. Still trying to weigh both things in my head and estimating whether a 2022 expert beginner would be at a net advantage today compared to 14 years ago.

Madmallard 4y ago

Everyone with disadvantages gets victimized by the PVP aspects of our world. It is reality. One must deal with it the best they can. And it is getting worse.

arvinsim 4y ago

> God forbid people save up a bunch of money and decide to not work for a year or two. That's interesting. My assumption is that you would need to work so that you can save a bunch of money.

OJFord 4y ago
Like the 11.75y of work that preceded it?

helloworld11 4y ago

Agreed. This is a sick and denigrating attitude to take towards people, who might just maybe, possibly have prolonged lapses of other priorities in life besides improving bottom line value for others during half their day. And it shouldn't need some sort of rigorous justification as if one were a peon who had better make amends for not worshipping "hustle" every year of their damn adult life.