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>The complaint recounts an incident, for instance, about Johnson telling DiBenedetto in 2020 that he expected to retire in a couple of years. DiBenedetto said h

>The complaint recounts an incident, for instance, about Johnson telling DiBenedetto in 2020 that he expected to retire in a couple of years. DiBenedetto said he was interested in applying for his boss’ job. Johnson allegedly noted DiBenedetto’s short "runway." According to DiBenedetto, the boss said, “In these roles, you know, you've got to be able to adapt and move, and I'm not saying you can't, but a 58-year-old white guy, I don't know if that's going to happen.” Oof. Seems like an open and shut case if that last quote (or others of its ilk) can be proven to have been said.

derevaunseraun 4y ago
> Oof. Seems like an open and shut case if that last quote (or others of its ilk) can be proven to have been said. If he was in a one party consent state for audio recording, he should've recorded it.
- cmeacham98 4y ago
  In hindsight this is obviously true, but I doubt many people record every conversation they have with their boss (I guess maybe they should just in case?)
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  - jcadam 4y ago
    Remote work will make this easier. Imagine getting something like that over Slack. Boom, screen-shot.
CodeSgt 4y ago
When I initially read that I honestly didn't think it was all that bad. Inappropriate? Yes. Lawsuit worthy? No. But then, I imagined if the same thing were said to a 58 year old black woman, and immediately realized that it's severity. Is it just me, or has racism towards white people become acceptable/main stream (at least, much more so than racism towards other races)? I feel as if my lack of a visceral reaction to this is due in part to a form of desensitization that's taken place during my time on social media. I rarely see this racism expressed as actual hatred, but I very frequently see disparaging jokes targeted towards white people, especially old white people.
- mathgladiator 4y ago
  I was once in a DEI focused meeting with directors where a VP basically said that we had too many white men. A director even mentioned ways of treading the line of the law (after the VP shut down an illegal recommendatio), so it is pretty gnarly. What I think it is happening is that people are competing in a who can be the most racist/sexist. It was nauseating.
- colechristensen 4y ago
  >Is it just me, or has racism towards white people become acceptable/main stream Remember when a TV celebrity lunitic got elected president mostly on account of the votes of white people who didn't feel the privilege they were told they all had (regardless if true)? First the fringe notices, then as the issue gets worse the more moderate people notice and don't say much because it isn't socially acceptable, then it becomes a widely known uncomfortable fact, then it progresses to a point where only a few people are left defending the bad behavior. ^ you can apply the above to just about any social problem where mistreatment goes from the moral imperative to socially unacceptable What you've done is accidentally sympathized with a core issue of "the other side" (assuming your politics here, apologies if wrong)
- sjtindell 4y ago
  I have to chuckle a little at your “is it just me”…this is literally one of pop culture/the internet’s biggest flame wars these days. No offense intended. It commonly spirals off into tangents about the modern definitions of racism vs. prejudice and many other threads. Sometimes I wish alongside articles like this there was a pre-prepared list of the 10 most common takes about a subject. So we can stop rehashing all that and get to the meat. I’m guilty of it too.
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- ryan_lane 4y ago
  You don't need to imagine it happening to a minority group. It's a workplace violation against two protected classes: race, and protected age group (40+). It's lawsuit worthy in general, and your post makes it pretty clear you don't pay attention to your company's anti-discrimination training.
umeshunni 4y ago
A more DEI-aware workplace might have phrased it better and said something like "Sorry Bob, but we're trying to hire more diverse candidates for these roles"
- chitowneats 4y ago
  The way they've bastardized the definition of the word "diverse" so thoroughly among American institutions is really something to behold.
  - akomtu 4y ago
    I like to expand the acronym as Divisiveness Exclusion Ignorance.
  - klipt 4y ago
    The most diverse group possible consists 100% of black disabled trans lesbians, of course.
    - earleybird 4y ago
      Kids in the Hall nailed it in 1994 "The Kids in the Hall" Episode #4.19" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1tFbZ5kaY8&t=94s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1tFbZ5kaY8&t=94s But do watch the whole sketch.
- usrn 4y ago
  Do you want Nazis? Because this is how you get Nazis.

derevaunseraun 4y ago

> Oof. Seems like an open and shut case if that last quote (or others of its ilk) can be proven to have been said. If he was in a one party consent state for audio recording, he should've recorded it.

cmeacham98 4y ago
In hindsight this is obviously true, but I doubt many people record every conversation they have with their boss (I guess maybe they should just in case?)
- deleted 4y ago
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- jcadam 4y ago
  Remote work will make this easier. Imagine getting something like that over Slack. Boom, screen-shot.

CodeSgt 4y ago

When I initially read that I honestly didn't think it was all that bad. Inappropriate? Yes. Lawsuit worthy? No. But then, I imagined if the same thing were said to a 58 year old black woman, and immediately realized that it's severity. Is it just me, or has racism towards white people become acceptable/main stream (at least, much more so than racism towards other races)? I feel as if my lack of a visceral reaction to this is due in part to a form of desensitization that's taken place during my time on social media. I rarely see this racism expressed as actual hatred, but I very frequently see disparaging jokes targeted towards white people, especially old white people.

mathgladiator 4y ago
I was once in a DEI focused meeting with directors where a VP basically said that we had too many white men. A director even mentioned ways of treading the line of the law (after the VP shut down an illegal recommendatio), so it is pretty gnarly. What I think it is happening is that people are competing in a who can be the most racist/sexist. It was nauseating.
colechristensen 4y ago
>Is it just me, or has racism towards white people become acceptable/main stream Remember when a TV celebrity lunitic got elected president mostly on account of the votes of white people who didn't feel the privilege they were told they all had (regardless if true)? First the fringe notices, then as the issue gets worse the more moderate people notice and don't say much because it isn't socially acceptable, then it becomes a widely known uncomfortable fact, then it progresses to a point where only a few people are left defending the bad behavior. ^ you can apply the above to just about any social problem where mistreatment goes from the moral imperative to socially unacceptable What you've done is accidentally sympathized with a core issue of "the other side" (assuming your politics here, apologies if wrong)
sjtindell 4y ago
I have to chuckle a little at your “is it just me”…this is literally one of pop culture/the internet’s biggest flame wars these days. No offense intended. It commonly spirals off into tangents about the modern definitions of racism vs. prejudice and many other threads. Sometimes I wish alongside articles like this there was a pre-prepared list of the 10 most common takes about a subject. So we can stop rehashing all that and get to the meat. I’m guilty of it too.
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ryan_lane 4y ago
You don't need to imagine it happening to a minority group. It's a workplace violation against two protected classes: race, and protected age group (40+). It's lawsuit worthy in general, and your post makes it pretty clear you don't pay attention to your company's anti-discrimination training.

umeshunni 4y ago

A more DEI-aware workplace might have phrased it better and said something like "Sorry Bob, but we're trying to hire more diverse candidates for these roles"

chitowneats 4y ago
The way they've bastardized the definition of the word "diverse" so thoroughly among American institutions is really something to behold.
- akomtu 4y ago
  I like to expand the acronym as Divisiveness Exclusion Ignorance.
- klipt 4y ago
  The most diverse group possible consists 100% of black disabled trans lesbians, of course.
  - earleybird 4y ago
    Kids in the Hall nailed it in 1994 "The Kids in the Hall" Episode #4.19" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1tFbZ5kaY8&t=94s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1tFbZ5kaY8&t=94s But do watch the whole sketch.
usrn 4y ago
Do you want Nazis? Because this is how you get Nazis.