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From my understanding, in most places in USA ATC is provided by private enterprises contracted for the role, not as civil service - a direct effect of the Reaga
by p_l 4y ago
From my understanding, in most places in USA ATC is provided by private enterprises contracted for the role, not as civil service - a direct effect of the Reagan crackdown.
This has interesting knock on effects, for example if private company ATC fucks up and gives you bad information, you don't have much in terms of options for example to dispute charges that you deliberately violated a presidential no fly zone.
- throwawaylinux 4y ago> for example if private company ATC fucks up and gives you bad information, you don't have much in terms of options for example to dispute charges that you deliberately violated a presidential no fly zone. Why would ATC being public or private contractor for public agency change your legal situation here?
- lmm 4y agoIf they were public you'd be able to FOIA their records? And/or get access to them in discovery since they're part of the plantiff organisation.
- p_l 4y agoThe case I heard of, which did involve bad information leading to getting intercepted, the fact that the ATC was subcontracted to private organization meant that it was extra hard (if not impossible, at the time I've read about the case they were still trying to find a way) to get any information regarding ATC operation that could at least lead to a witness for the trial.
- xyzzyz 4y agoIf you’re given wrong wrong instruction by a public agency, it is highly likely that you have literally no recourse whatsoever, due to sovereign and qualified immunity.
- p_l 4y agoNot really - you can request FOIA or equivalent records and the like and use them for example to defend yourself, even if the agency can't be sued - and qualified immunity IIRC did not apply to civil service ATC, nor did sovereign immunity.