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> A user is free to use a device with USB-C right now No they cannot use it with certain devices. Which is what the legislation is for. Then they will have t

by stale2002 4y ago

> A user is free to use a device with USB-C right now No they cannot use it with certain devices. Which is what the legislation is for. Then they will have that ability with all devices in the EU. Apple is also free to make devices doing whatever they want, and sell them in a different country. > Should the EU force companies to make that? Apple isn't forced to make anything. They can simply of their own choosing, leave that market. It is their choice to sell to that market, and they can feel free to leave if they don't like the official representatives of the EU using their official power to legislate. All these arguments about choice are ignoring that it is the choice of the EU to control its own market, and it is Apple's choice to sell there. They are free to leave if they don't like the laws that the lawmakers create. > I want all cars to support CarPlay. Should that be legislated? If you can get enough support among lawmakers, feel free to talk about the benefits and cons of your proposal.

scarface74 4y ago
How is that any different? Why stop at cord compatibility? Why not force all manufacturers to support Android?
- stale2002 4y ago
  > Why stop at cord compatibility? Well the biggest reason is because there are a much larger amount of people and law makers who would prefer simply stopping at cord compatibility, and cord compatibility is much easier to implement, and much less disruptive, than more extreme and absurd examples. Society does not have to do the most extreme thing possible, in every situation. Instead, society can pick and choose. We can look for easy wins, and do the things that are easy to implement and not do the things that are harder to implement. In fact, apple is already planning on adding USB C to the next iPhone, if the rumors are true. So it sounds like even they agree that cord compatibility is at least possible for them to do with a reasonable effort.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    So they help prevent e waste by preventing people from throwing away cords instead of helping people not to have to throw away phones. Government at its best. Next they are going to mandate pop up warnings every time I turn on my phone like the cookie banners. I doubt people are complaining more about cord compatibility than having to replace an entire functioning phone because it no longer receives even security updates. Let alone operating system updates.
    - stale2002 4y ago
      > So they help prevent e waste by preventing people from throwing away cords instead of helping people not to have to throw away phones. The point here is that solving the cord compatibility problem is much easier. Do you understand how we as a society are not forced to do the most extreme action in every circumstance?

scarface74 4y ago

How is that any different? Why stop at cord compatibility? Why not force all manufacturers to support Android?

stale2002 4y ago
> Why stop at cord compatibility? Well the biggest reason is because there are a much larger amount of people and law makers who would prefer simply stopping at cord compatibility, and cord compatibility is much easier to implement, and much less disruptive, than more extreme and absurd examples. Society does not have to do the most extreme thing possible, in every situation. Instead, society can pick and choose. We can look for easy wins, and do the things that are easy to implement and not do the things that are harder to implement. In fact, apple is already planning on adding USB C to the next iPhone, if the rumors are true. So it sounds like even they agree that cord compatibility is at least possible for them to do with a reasonable effort.
- scarface74 4y ago
  So they help prevent e waste by preventing people from throwing away cords instead of helping people not to have to throw away phones. Government at its best. Next they are going to mandate pop up warnings every time I turn on my phone like the cookie banners. I doubt people are complaining more about cord compatibility than having to replace an entire functioning phone because it no longer receives even security updates. Let alone operating system updates.
  - stale2002 4y ago
    > So they help prevent e waste by preventing people from throwing away cords instead of helping people not to have to throw away phones. The point here is that solving the cord compatibility problem is much easier. Do you understand how we as a society are not forced to do the most extreme action in every circumstance?