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In the case of the former, caning is a widely used form of corporal punishment. That is extremely conservative and not something we should re-create in the US.

cameldrv 4y ago
I don't think that we should institute caning, but I do think that new forms of punishment are needed. Jail and prison are terrible forms of punishment. Someone who goes to prison is going to lose their job, maybe lose their house and possessions, and be away from their family. And that's all to spend time hanging out with convicted criminals all day and learn nothing of value. Compared with this, caning actually starts to look not so bad. It sends a clear message "don't do that again" without destroying someone's life. Now, caning also can cause serious damage to your body, so I don't think it's an acceptable punishment, but it would be good to have a better method of punishment that sent a clear message but didn't wreck someone's life and leave them with little alternative but to resort to crime again.
linksnapzz 4y ago
I draw the line, myself, at permanently maiming people for petty crime, so the Saudi method of handling thieves is off the table. Birching or caning was used successfully in anglophone countries for years. Alternatively, something distasteful and uncomfortable, like being dressed in an orange jumpsuit, shackled to other ne'r-do-wells, and forcd to police the side of a highway for litter for 12 hours a day for a month would also work, if it could be applied with dispatch.
linksnapzz 4y ago
...furthermore, consider this: https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/victim-of-hit-and-run-in-venice-outraged-over-juvenile-suspects-sentence/ https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/victim-of-hit-and-ru... Think hard on the developmental stage of the person behind the wheel of the car. Which do you think will have a more lasting effect on him; camp...or a whipping? Do you think the woman in the article is wrong for being outraged at the original sentence?

cameldrv 4y ago

I don't think that we should institute caning, but I do think that new forms of punishment are needed. Jail and prison are terrible forms of punishment. Someone who goes to prison is going to lose their job, maybe lose their house and possessions, and be away from their family. And that's all to spend time hanging out with convicted criminals all day and learn nothing of value. Compared with this, caning actually starts to look not so bad. It sends a clear message "don't do that again" without destroying someone's life. Now, caning also can cause serious damage to your body, so I don't think it's an acceptable punishment, but it would be good to have a better method of punishment that sent a clear message but didn't wreck someone's life and leave them with little alternative but to resort to crime again.

linksnapzz 4y ago

I draw the line, myself, at permanently maiming people for petty crime, so the Saudi method of handling thieves is off the table. Birching or caning was used successfully in anglophone countries for years. Alternatively, something distasteful and uncomfortable, like being dressed in an orange jumpsuit, shackled to other ne'r-do-wells, and forcd to police the side of a highway for litter for 12 hours a day for a month would also work, if it could be applied with dispatch.

linksnapzz 4y ago

...furthermore, consider this: https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/victim-of-hit-and-run-in-venice-outraged-over-juvenile-suspects-sentence/ https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/victim-of-hit-and-ru... Think hard on the developmental stage of the person behind the wheel of the car. Which do you think will have a more lasting effect on him; camp...or a whipping? Do you think the woman in the article is wrong for being outraged at the original sentence?