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Oh, when you call support they will go through a verification process. Worst case you send them a copy of your (new) drivers license/photo ID. As long as the pe

Oh, when you call support they will go through a verification process. Worst case you send them a copy of your (new) drivers license/photo ID. As long as the person on the other end is a human, this isn't a problem but if you are facing Google which has no support, you are screwed. > as unrealistic as asking them to stop using Facebook. I don't use Facebook. Not an issue. Several family members also don't use it. I keep in touch with people by calling them by phone every few weeks.

the_af 4y ago
> if you are facing Google which has no support, you are screwed I agree Google has enough horror stories that make me dread the day disaster decides to strike. I do have the suspicion their support is not entirely automated though. There are online groups of "volunteers" where, if you post asking for help and provide some evidence, your request will be magically expedited. This makes me think Google's official stance is "no human support", but really there is some unofficial support. Still terrible, but something to consider. > I don't use Facebook That's why I said what's unrealistic is asking people to stop using Facebook. For people who already use it. As an aside, having people call me on the phone every two weeks just to see how I'm doing sounds like an annoyance to me.
- vorpalhex 4y ago
  > That's why I said what's unrealistic is asking people to stop using Facebook I used Facebook since it was restricted and used it genuinely for many years. I stopped. Likewise for many of my family - they are ex-Facebook users. > having people call me on the phone every two weeks just to see how I'm doing sounds like an annoyance to me. To each their own but if you are using a platform that is in theory meant to connect you with other people.. then it sounds like you want social connection. Facebook is fake. Phone calls can be fake or awkward or other things too but the default tends to be pretty good with a bit of practice. Having someone care about you enough to take the time to call you on a semi-regular basis is a feature, not a bug.
  - the_af 4y ago
    > I used Facebook since it was restricted and used it genuinely for many years. I stopped. Likewise for many of my family - they are ex-Facebook users. Glad it worked for you, but surely you see the little value of the anecdotical? For most people, asking them to stop using Facebook is unrealistic. > Having someone care about you enough to take the time to call you on a semi-regular basis is a feature, not a bug. If you were my friend, I would kindly ask you to stop doing this. Maybe we wouldn't be friends. Once in a while it's ok, especially to arrange something, but semi-regularly: nope. But we are getting sidetracked, the point was not to argue about Facebook. The point is that asking people to stop doing arbitrary things is unrealistic, and therefore it won't work.

the_af 4y ago

> if you are facing Google which has no support, you are screwed I agree Google has enough horror stories that make me dread the day disaster decides to strike. I do have the suspicion their support is not entirely automated though. There are online groups of "volunteers" where, if you post asking for help and provide some evidence, your request will be magically expedited. This makes me think Google's official stance is "no human support", but really there is some unofficial support. Still terrible, but something to consider. > I don't use Facebook That's why I said what's unrealistic is asking people to stop using Facebook. For people who already use it. As an aside, having people call me on the phone every two weeks just to see how I'm doing sounds like an annoyance to me.

vorpalhex 4y ago
> That's why I said what's unrealistic is asking people to stop using Facebook I used Facebook since it was restricted and used it genuinely for many years. I stopped. Likewise for many of my family - they are ex-Facebook users. > having people call me on the phone every two weeks just to see how I'm doing sounds like an annoyance to me. To each their own but if you are using a platform that is in theory meant to connect you with other people.. then it sounds like you want social connection. Facebook is fake. Phone calls can be fake or awkward or other things too but the default tends to be pretty good with a bit of practice. Having someone care about you enough to take the time to call you on a semi-regular basis is a feature, not a bug.
- the_af 4y ago
  > I used Facebook since it was restricted and used it genuinely for many years. I stopped. Likewise for many of my family - they are ex-Facebook users. Glad it worked for you, but surely you see the little value of the anecdotical? For most people, asking them to stop using Facebook is unrealistic. > Having someone care about you enough to take the time to call you on a semi-regular basis is a feature, not a bug. If you were my friend, I would kindly ask you to stop doing this. Maybe we wouldn't be friends. Once in a while it's ok, especially to arrange something, but semi-regularly: nope. But we are getting sidetracked, the point was not to argue about Facebook. The point is that asking people to stop doing arbitrary things is unrealistic, and therefore it won't work.