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affecting other T1 providers too, NTT, Arelion (ex-Telia) also cloud providers OVH who have dark fibers between EU <-> Asia
by nanankcornering 4y ago
affecting other T1 providers too, NTT, Arelion (ex-Telia) also cloud providers OVH who have dark fibers between EU <-> Asia
- Tinkeringz 4y agoMaybe a shared undersea cable or landing point issue since it’s multiple
- njibhu 4y agoSource for OVH: https://network.status-ovhcloud.com/incidents/pphdyqq9cgyl https://network.status-ovhcloud.com/incidents/pphdyqq9cgyl Couldn't find for Arelion
- gundmc 4y agoThis link has been updated to say the root cause is a fiber cut.
- dontbenebby 4y ago>affecting other T1 providers too Then maybe the headline should be more accurate rather than give free marketing to what some might term a monopoly.
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- sophacles 4y agoThis was reported before it was clear that cables were cut. As with many things symptoms appeared before the cause was understood and that knowledge filter through the NOCs of the world, let alone out to users. Also, how is the headline not accurate? Did Google Cloud not in fact have major packet loss between multiple regions? How does "this service is down" count as marketing, isn't it giving people bad impressions?
- dontbenebby 4y ago>This was reported before it was clear that cables were cut. That's rude. Who did that?
- mynameisvlad 4y agoWhat is this snarky attitude? Be civil. As the parent comment mentions, the service providers are obviously going to see an issue the second it happens, but it might take minutes/hours for information to disseminate on the root cause. Just like... Practically any incident. If you immediately know the root cause, it shouldn't have been an incident in the first place.
- joatmon-snoo 4y agoI think there's a /s on the comment you're responding to :)
- dontbenebby 4y ago>What is this snarky attitude? Be civil. How am I beint uncivil? If I reply in short sentences I'm uncivil, longer ones have my words twisted and picked apart. "That's rude. Who cut the cable?" is a legitimate question and perfectly civil. If you are perceiving something as "snarky", that is on you. You cannot see into my mind. (If I didn't care, I'd just smirk to myself and not even ask who cut the cable.) Now, do you think the above is uncivil? If so why? And, as I asked previously, do you know who cut the cable?
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- mynameisvlad 4y agoYou actually asked "That's rude. Who did that?" after commenting "Then maybe the headline should be more accurate rather than give free marketing to what some might term a monopoly." The other interpretation of that statement, given your antagonistic first comment, is asking "Who issued the incident", as evidenced by the second half of my reply.
- nanankcornering 4y agooutage caused by AAE-1 submarine cable cut in Egypt.. well.. let's see how long it takes https://twitter.com/CloudflareRadar/status/1534201030430363650 https://twitter.com/CloudflareRadar/status/15342010304303636...
- ArtWomb 4y agoactually logged in to make a joke about how the everyday vpc hiccups we live with are becoming indistinguishable from reported downage but of course hn has more current info than the gcp team i was chatting with and if this trend of cutting undersea cables continues i'm getting a shortwave ;)
- Victerius 4y agoThe Internet really is a series of tubes after all.
- mgdlbp 4y agoBut it's now a bit stuck.
- randmeerkat 4y agoThe tubes are full.
- iso1631 4y agoAnd SEA-ME-WE-5 too apparently. I had a Wiocc outage on London-Kenya last night, didn't think much about it, maybe they rerouted from break last night, and that's why I had such big problems today If they both went together than that feels like an anchor, if one went last night and another today that's a nasty coincidence. I'm not sure which is worse.
- RedShift1 4y agoWell they are clearly not dark fibers as the cut is causing issues?
- jthrowsitaway 4y agoIndeed. Not sure why that term is misused so much. There's nothing dark about fiber that's being used. > A dark fibre or unlit fibre is an unused optical fibre, available for use in fibre-optic communication
- toast0 4y agoMore or less, someone with a cable leases you dark fiber, and then you light it. What are you using? lit fiber (obviously), what did you lease? dark fiber. When it's severed, it's not exactly lit anymore either ;)
- dpe82 4y agoBy that logic, all fiber is "dark fiber". :) As I recall, "dark fiber" came into use after the dotcom bust left lots of overbuilt and unused network infrastructure around that companies could buy up for years after for pennies on the dollar. Buying "dark fiber" in that context had meaning - it meant you were buying already built-out and unused fiber, compared to running your own fiber lines at full cost as had previously been more common.
- toast0 4y agoWell, I was joking a bit, but I would consider it dark fiber when you lease the fiber and run the equipment on both ends, and lit fiber when the owner of the fiber is running the equipment on both ends and selling you IP transit.
- sophacles 4y ago> When it's severed, it's not exactly lit anymore either ;) It literally is lit though, the lasers at both ends are still trying to send bits, or at least sending pulses to do fault location.