> Do you ever have a set of facts and reason about what you can conclude from them? That's math. > Do you ever play board games and try to come up with the bes

> Do you ever have a set of facts and reason about what you can conclude from them? That's math. > Do you ever play board games and try to come up with the best strategy? That's math. If zero people who aren't math majors think that's true—which is the case—then our 13 years of compulsory math education is to blame for that. If people manage to do both well enough to get by just fine in life, without any formal math education on it, then one wonders how necessary math education is to effectively do the math that people actually do. (personally, I'd look in the philosophy section for the former, at least, seeing as all my logic books, except the one specifically about mathematical proofs, are philosophy textbooks, including the ones full of symbols)