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Vimeo bans game videos
- lukeholder 15y agothis has been the case for a long time. they also banned business videos until the recently added business plans.
- brackin 15y agoIt's true they've always been strict on this topic, especially with game videos.
- icefox 15y agoIs it copyright issues? Is this video game trailers or runthroughs or commentators on play?
- fredoliveira 15y agoI read a loooong discussion between then community manager Dallas Verdugo and random people about 2 years ago about this and it boils down to "if you didn't make it, it doesn't belong on vimeo". People argued that they were the ones playing the game, but the argument back was that it wasn't interesting for Vimeo and its community. I do understand their take on it. Vimeo has always aimed for quality user generated content, and it is easy to make an argument that game videos don't necessarily fit that vision.
- kevingadd 15y agoThis isn't about 'you didn't make it', though. These are game developers posting videos of stuff they created, to share it with people. Vimeo doesn't seem to want that anymore either.
- chipsy 15y agoThis has resurfaced because indie game developers have sometimes used Vimeo to host trailers or development videos. Vimeo has enforced the policy(which is against _playthroughs_) haphazardly on these corner cases, which has caused takedowns at critical moments for the game's promotion. One of these takedowns happened again a few days ago. Vimeo should probably change their policy to "no videos primarily consisting of video game content" if they want to make themselves clear. Enforcement of the existing language is obviously beyond their abilities.
- fredoliveira 15y agoOh I see. Apologies, didn't notice the different context. Yup, the discussion 2 years ago was indeed about playthroughs. Its a shame that they're changing to anything videogame related. A lot of indie devs I follow do use Vimeo for their content.
- theDoug 15y agoVimeo's guidelines on commercial and gaming videos are clear. The rules have always been enforced, regardless of impressions people may be trying to give that this is a recent decision. Every user who has uploaded a video has seen the guidelines and agreed to them. The focus at Vimeo on creator-contributed content and community are what has likely kept it from becoming the YouTube comment and content cesspool that is mocked the world over.
- kevingadd 15y agoThis is simply not true. My vimeo account is 'white-listed' because I am a game developer which allows me to upload game development footage and trailers. A vimeo support tech offered this to me early on in response to my complaints about my videos being erroneously flagged. The behavior discussed in the original post is new (ish).
- reissbaker 15y agoIt's true that the commercial and gaming guidelines are clear -- but the gaming guidelines have until now been interpreted (and applied by Vimeo) as relating to fan-made playthroughs of games, not videos uploaded by independent game makers of what they're working on. Applying those rules to the game creators is the recent decision. [Edit:] Since this wasn't made clear by the linked article, Alec Holowka (Infinite Ammo, from the takedown screenshot) is an award-winning independent game developer, which is why people are upset.
- brackin 15y agoIt's not clear and this makes me change my view.
- matthew-wegner 15y agoTake this just-posted PBS segment on video games: http://vimeo.com/31155800 http://vimeo.com/31155800 . PBS didn't make the games shown in the clip; should Vimeo block it? And the recent trigger here was the 586 games submitted to the Independent Games Festival (http://www.igf.com/php-bin/entries2012.php http://www.igf.com/php-bin/entries2012.php). Many entrants used Vimeo to host their trailers. Every single game trailer was created and uploaded by the game creators, yet many accounts were removed. I understand Vimeo's position on people posting footage of their WoW raids, Counter-Strike matches, and so on, but blocking indie game devs from posting their own trailers and videos? This behavior is incongruent with their stated desire to support creators. And for what? Because they work in games and not films (or indeed, even films about games: http://vimeo.com/indiegame http://vimeo.com/indiegame)?
- ibrahimcesar 15y agoDaniel in the post say all: "Its in the TOS and they want paid for a service theyre providing. No point complaining - pay up or shut up."
- wnight 15y agoIt's arbitrary, not legally required, and just stupid. They can enforce whatever they want but when they're this bad at it they're only alienating their users.
- stephth 15y agoIn case you missed it, the original report is largely better informed and prosed than the bite size, watered-down, borderline misleading, linked article: http://kotaku.com/5853665/vimeo-vs-indie-game-developers http://kotaku.com/5853665/vimeo-vs-indie-game-developers
- troymc 15y agoIt seems strange that Vimeo has this policy when they're way behind YouTube in market share and mind share. Are they really so desperate for money that this is necessary? If so, they should surrender to YouTube, give up, and go do something else.
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- robofhood 15y agovimeo sucks...i can't tell you how many embedded videos have forced me back to vimeo.com to watch an hd version. oh yeah, i usually turn the sound off and wait for the video to fully load before trying to watch it.
- jeffool 15y agoLooks like a big opportunity for Twitch.tv/Justin.tv just opened up. I hope they get in on it. I know they're focused on live gaming, but there's a community here that will gladly gather around a welcoming site.
- petercooper 15y agoAs Paul Boag noted at http://boagworld.com/reviews/vimeo/ http://boagworld.com/reviews/vimeo/ .. Don’t host with Vimeo whatever your content. You cannot guarantee how it will be perceived by Vimeo and if they do take exception to it, there is no upgrade path. It seems, from his experience, that even alluding to commercial products or services behind the scenes can get you canned.
- JEVLON 15y agoI love games, and they can often be the most creative form of media. However, there are a lot of ugly, tasteless, boring, & unoriginal games in existence. Vimeo tries to focus on high quality videos with artistic qualities, or good levels of production.
- 5hoom 15y agoIt's their site & all, but criticisms like "ugly, tasteless, boring, & unoriginal" could just as easily be levelled at about the same ratio of films as games.
- jacobbijani 15y agoThey started enforcing this 3 years ago. Now they offer an option other than deleting your account, it seems. http://vimeo.com/blog:140 http://vimeo.com/blog:140
- gosub 15y agoWhat about machinima style videos?