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That is because these are difficult questions that everyone want to avoid(subconsciously). It's easier to take sides depending on what OS(es) you're running or

That is because these are difficult questions that everyone want to avoid(subconsciously). It's easier to take sides depending on what OS(es) you're running or what devices you're a fan of and then blast the other party for real or perceived faults. Some questions for discussion: 1. How do we make a software distribution system that simultaneously keeps malware off but allows developers and users liberty without a third party policing the content? (Without crippling the apps to a basic denominator like HTML does). Also, discouraging piracy is another goal.What do you do about the developers who abuse the liberty and do things to mislead the gullible users or kill battery life needlessly? Social reputation for apps? 2. How do we encourage innovation in technology(which sometimes takes massive investments of time and money) and design while simultaneously encouraging the reuse of code and ability to fix and tinker with things for yourself and others and all this while preserving the experience for the majority of users(who are not technically inclined at all)? 3.How do we workaround the fact that most people do not and will never have an interest in the technical workings of devices and asking them to research things and make an optimal choice of their own is too much to ask, should a company or central authority make that choice for them? The above are some of the points that Jobs and Stallman were on the opposite poles of. But it's easier to discuss, "hahaha, he hates parrots" and "what a jerk, parking in handicapped spaces" rather than having a real discussion about these tough issues.

zohebv 15y ago
> 1. How do we make a software distribution system that simultaneously keeps malware off but allows developers and users liberty without a third party policing the content? Android lets you install alternative marketplaces. In effect, the user now has to trust only a couple of marketplaces and this should help keep away malware while preserving freedom. > 3. How do we workaround the fact that most people do not and will never have an interest in the technical workings of devices Regulation :-( Ford is not allowed by law to build cars that can only be serviced by Ford. It should be the same for computing devices.
- elithrar 15y ago
  > Regulation :-( Ford is not allowed by law to build cars that can only be serviced by Ford. It should be the same for computing devices. Whilst I understand your point, that's not an apples-apples comparison. A car needs to be serviced, in order to remain road-worthy and safe. A computer, ideally, does not (even more so for smartphones, as they stand now).
  - pyre 15y ago
    Right because after a year or so you're supposed to recycle them and buy a new one...
Caspian 15y ago
> 3.How do we workaround the fact that most people do not and will never have an interest in the technical workings of devices and asking them to research things and make an optimal choice of their own is too much to ask, should a company or central authority make that choice for them? And malware creators with much more technical knowledge will try to mislead them about the choices. Maybe say the central authority gets to make the choices on a day-to-day basis, but with a two month lead time, you can decide to switch to another authority for your device, and all apps that are happy with the new authority still work. You would have to trust that the central authority doesn't sabotage your ability to switch with your existing data and apps intact, and this would be hard to verify in advance if DRM prevented you from seeing what code was running on the device.

zohebv 15y ago

> 1. How do we make a software distribution system that simultaneously keeps malware off but allows developers and users liberty without a third party policing the content? Android lets you install alternative marketplaces. In effect, the user now has to trust only a couple of marketplaces and this should help keep away malware while preserving freedom. > 3. How do we workaround the fact that most people do not and will never have an interest in the technical workings of devices Regulation :-( Ford is not allowed by law to build cars that can only be serviced by Ford. It should be the same for computing devices.

elithrar 15y ago
> Regulation :-( Ford is not allowed by law to build cars that can only be serviced by Ford. It should be the same for computing devices. Whilst I understand your point, that's not an apples-apples comparison. A car needs to be serviced, in order to remain road-worthy and safe. A computer, ideally, does not (even more so for smartphones, as they stand now).
- pyre 15y ago
  Right because after a year or so you're supposed to recycle them and buy a new one...

Caspian 15y ago

> 3.How do we workaround the fact that most people do not and will never have an interest in the technical workings of devices and asking them to research things and make an optimal choice of their own is too much to ask, should a company or central authority make that choice for them? And malware creators with much more technical knowledge will try to mislead them about the choices. Maybe say the central authority gets to make the choices on a day-to-day basis, but with a two month lead time, you can decide to switch to another authority for your device, and all apps that are happy with the new authority still work. You would have to trust that the central authority doesn't sabotage your ability to switch with your existing data and apps intact, and this would be hard to verify in advance if DRM prevented you from seeing what code was running on the device.