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How is tesla's connector nicer?

bin_bash 4y ago
It’s a lot smaller, locks into the car while charging, and doesn’t have an extra flap you have to open when using DC fast charging.
- objclxt 4y ago
  > locks into the car while charging The EU plug locks into the car while charging. Not sure why you think it doesn't. There's also no obligation to have an extra flap, my Model 3 does not.
  - thinkindie 4y ago
    I second this. I'm frequently using the volkswagen ID.3 and there is no way to unplug it unless you unlock it from charging station with the card you find it in the car (at least in Berlin).
- malfist 4y ago
  Do those small improvement justify fragmentation of standards?
- amluto 4y ago
  The locking feature is misguided. There should absolutely be a mechanical interlock to prevent unplugging under load. But no key should be required to unplug a home charger, and no key should be needed to plug in a charger once the charge port is open. As I see it, the only security goals should be: 1. At a public charger, one should have to authenticate to _either_ the car or the charger to interrupt an active charging session. 2. When using a portable charger of the sort that is owned by the car’s owner, one should not be able to unplug the charger and thus steal it if one cannot authenticate to the car. And that’s it. You should be able to unplug someone else from a public charger that can reach multiple parking spaces once it finishes charging.
  - IndrekR 4y ago
    And this is exactly how the charging in EU works.
- _ea1k 4y ago
  The CCS2 standard used in Europe and most of the world locks the cable similarly to Tesla. The CCS1 standard locks the cable using a little flap that folds down on top of the CCS1 latch to hold it in place. Its every bit as clumsy as it sounds, but it does mean there is a locked cable. Example CCS1 inlet: http://www.wind-works.org/cms/index.php?id=84&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=4910&cHash=f50ba9197ea0b5c98e5739aa2504e43f http://www.wind-works.org/cms/index.php?id=84&tx_ttnews%5Btt...
- kylecordes 4y ago
  I can scarcely imagine the shame of an engineer speccing that awful plastic flap on $100,000 car. What do you tell your children?

It’s a lot smaller, locks into the car while charging, and doesn’t have an extra flap you have to open when using DC fast charging.

objclxt 4y ago
> locks into the car while charging The EU plug locks into the car while charging. Not sure why you think it doesn't. There's also no obligation to have an extra flap, my Model 3 does not.
- thinkindie 4y ago
  I second this. I'm frequently using the volkswagen ID.3 and there is no way to unplug it unless you unlock it from charging station with the card you find it in the car (at least in Berlin).
malfist 4y ago
Do those small improvement justify fragmentation of standards?
amluto 4y ago
The locking feature is misguided. There should absolutely be a mechanical interlock to prevent unplugging under load. But no key should be required to unplug a home charger, and no key should be needed to plug in a charger once the charge port is open. As I see it, the only security goals should be: 1. At a public charger, one should have to authenticate to _either_ the car or the charger to interrupt an active charging session. 2. When using a portable charger of the sort that is owned by the car’s owner, one should not be able to unplug the charger and thus steal it if one cannot authenticate to the car. And that’s it. You should be able to unplug someone else from a public charger that can reach multiple parking spaces once it finishes charging.
- IndrekR 4y ago
  And this is exactly how the charging in EU works.
_ea1k 4y ago
The CCS2 standard used in Europe and most of the world locks the cable similarly to Tesla. The CCS1 standard locks the cable using a little flap that folds down on top of the CCS1 latch to hold it in place. Its every bit as clumsy as it sounds, but it does mean there is a locked cable. Example CCS1 inlet: http://www.wind-works.org/cms/index.php?id=84&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=4910&cHash=f50ba9197ea0b5c98e5739aa2504e43f http://www.wind-works.org/cms/index.php?id=84&tx_ttnews%5Btt...
kylecordes 4y ago
I can scarcely imagine the shame of an engineer speccing that awful plastic flap on $100,000 car. What do you tell your children?