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I'm not sure how much can be gleaned about my competency and experience from just YoE (I jokingly refer to it as "bum in seat time" sometimes) In any case thou

I'm not sure how much can be gleaned about my competency and experience from just YoE (I jokingly refer to it as "bum in seat time" sometimes) In any case though, that comp seems pretty typical nowadays, folks I know at Apple are on 250k and that's considered normal.

DoingIsLearning 4y ago
> folks I know at Apple are on 250k and that's considered normal As in UK based Apple employees? 5 years back you would only get to that level as a massively prolific contractor. Maybe I should move back to the UK! :)
- intunderflow 4y ago
  Yeah, high Senior / low Staff at Apple nets you 250k based on folks I know
_trackno5 4y ago
Sure 250k is normal, but at a senior level. 2 YoE would never get someone 190k salary (in the UK).That's just nuts. If you told me 190k for a senior role I'd totally buy that.
- catchmilk 4y ago
  OP didn't specify whether that includes bonus or not. Regardless, for 2 YoE, this has to be a huge outlier. I'm inclined to think that this more an exception to the rule - I have a bunch of friends working in London finance tech, none of them making even close to that figure.
rbanffy 4y ago
> folks I know at Apple are on 250k The pressure on them is quite high. I'm not sure I'd like to work for Apple. If I got offered a job, I'd add smooth scrolling and SGR 53 support to Terminal.app and quit immediately after it's released. Maybe fix text colors beyond what xterm256 offers.
- iofiiiiiiiii 4y ago
  Those 3-5 years at Apple could be lucrative for you. Go for it!
  - rbanffy 4y ago
    No pressure is non-negotiable. I work fine under pressure, but I hate it and will burnout.
pjc50 4y ago
2 YoE in what, specifically? I have _20_ years across a whole bunch of software and hardware areas, and would love to know how to get that kind of number. I see Citi do not post salaries on their job adverts, so we can't comparison shop.
- intunderflow 4y ago
  Mostly Go / Kubernetes and some Architecture stuff as well. Main focus has been Security, then Infrastructure. If you want to check what I've written for my experience my LinkedIn has it: https://www.linkedin.com/in/intunderflow https://www.linkedin.com/in/intunderflow
  - pjc50 4y ago
    Interesting. How should I parse "Assistant VP (Internship)" - that sounds like you were an assistant VP and an intern at the same time? Or was that "with responsibility for interns"?
    - intunderflow 4y ago
      Title didn't mean much at all. Officially I was an Assistant VP on a fixed term contract instead of an Intern, but this was over the traditional internship months and between University years. Main differences were: - There was no interview, I spoke to a Director for 15 minutes who happened to be visiting a professor I knew at University (sheer luck/fluke). - Building a team of full time employees as an intern is pretty unusual. That team went on after my internship. - Really open-ended (I was just dropped into the Data Science team and told "do something useful").

DoingIsLearning 4y ago

> folks I know at Apple are on 250k and that's considered normal As in UK based Apple employees? 5 years back you would only get to that level as a massively prolific contractor. Maybe I should move back to the UK! :)

intunderflow 4y ago
Yeah, high Senior / low Staff at Apple nets you 250k based on folks I know

_trackno5 4y ago

Sure 250k is normal, but at a senior level. 2 YoE would never get someone 190k salary (in the UK).That's just nuts. If you told me 190k for a senior role I'd totally buy that.

catchmilk 4y ago
OP didn't specify whether that includes bonus or not. Regardless, for 2 YoE, this has to be a huge outlier. I'm inclined to think that this more an exception to the rule - I have a bunch of friends working in London finance tech, none of them making even close to that figure.

rbanffy 4y ago

> folks I know at Apple are on 250k The pressure on them is quite high. I'm not sure I'd like to work for Apple. If I got offered a job, I'd add smooth scrolling and SGR 53 support to Terminal.app and quit immediately after it's released. Maybe fix text colors beyond what xterm256 offers.

iofiiiiiiiii 4y ago
Those 3-5 years at Apple could be lucrative for you. Go for it!
- rbanffy 4y ago
  No pressure is non-negotiable. I work fine under pressure, but I hate it and will burnout.

pjc50 4y ago

2 YoE in what, specifically? I have _20_ years across a whole bunch of software and hardware areas, and would love to know how to get that kind of number. I see Citi do not post salaries on their job adverts, so we can't comparison shop.

intunderflow 4y ago
Mostly Go / Kubernetes and some Architecture stuff as well. Main focus has been Security, then Infrastructure. If you want to check what I've written for my experience my LinkedIn has it: https://www.linkedin.com/in/intunderflow https://www.linkedin.com/in/intunderflow
- pjc50 4y ago
  Interesting. How should I parse "Assistant VP (Internship)" - that sounds like you were an assistant VP and an intern at the same time? Or was that "with responsibility for interns"?
  - intunderflow 4y ago
    Title didn't mean much at all. Officially I was an Assistant VP on a fixed term contract instead of an Intern, but this was over the traditional internship months and between University years. Main differences were: - There was no interview, I spoke to a Director for 15 minutes who happened to be visiting a professor I knew at University (sheer luck/fluke). - Building a team of full time employees as an intern is pretty unusual. That team went on after my internship. - Really open-ended (I was just dropped into the Data Science team and told "do something useful").