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The senior title has no formal definition. Personally I don’t consider anyone with under 10 years of highly diversified experience to be senior. Any senior with

by s__s 4y ago

The senior title has no formal definition. Personally I don’t consider anyone with under 10 years of highly diversified experience to be senior. Any senior with less experience under their belt I assume their employer tossed the title at them in lieu of a raise. The software industry in particular has gotten really lax with titles, to the point that they mean next to nothing. I get a laugh imagining a kid just a few years out of school explaining to people that they’re a “senior software engineer”. Anyone on the outside would assume they’re either full of shit or some kind of Doogie Howser.

muzani 4y ago
It's like "CEO" meaning they're the person responsible for anything. A senior engineer at a startup is the one expected to make sure engineering hits the deadlines. Titles aren't exactly medals or certifications, they just denote who to blame.
kypro 4y ago
I used to hesitate to call myself a senior dev, but I've come to realise it seems to be used just to refer to someone who can do their job without an excess amount of handholding. Junior devs on the other hand tend to be developers with little to no experience with some of the core technologies used within the role. Typically they'll require some help from more senior devs to get up to speed. I've been a developer for over 10 years at this point and I'm not really sure I feel like a senior dev. Every week I'm reminded how much I don't know. There's definitely a huge variance in the abilities of senior devs. Some of worked with are been terrible while others have been indispensable to the team. It's always bothered me that variance wasn't reflected in pay or title.
- s__s 4y ago
  > I've come to realise it seems to be used just to refer to someone who can do their job without an excess amount of handholding. Being competent enough to work independently is an extremely low bar for the distinction of being a senior in your field. In most other industries that just means you’re not a trainee any longer. For example my wife just entered the medical field doing administrative work. She’ll be a trainee for a full year. It will be a decade or more before she’ll be qualified to be in any sort of senior role. I mean at the end of the day I don’t feel that strongly about it, but the problem is that when titles become meaningless it’s very hard to for example, communicate what role you’re hiring for, or who the right person to lead a new project is.
sheunl 4y ago
It varies from company to company and role to role.

by s__s 4y ago

muzani 4y ago

It's like "CEO" meaning they're the person responsible for anything. A senior engineer at a startup is the one expected to make sure engineering hits the deadlines. Titles aren't exactly medals or certifications, they just denote who to blame.

kypro 4y ago

I used to hesitate to call myself a senior dev, but I've come to realise it seems to be used just to refer to someone who can do their job without an excess amount of handholding. Junior devs on the other hand tend to be developers with little to no experience with some of the core technologies used within the role. Typically they'll require some help from more senior devs to get up to speed. I've been a developer for over 10 years at this point and I'm not really sure I feel like a senior dev. Every week I'm reminded how much I don't know. There's definitely a huge variance in the abilities of senior devs. Some of worked with are been terrible while others have been indispensable to the team. It's always bothered me that variance wasn't reflected in pay or title.

s__s 4y ago
> I've come to realise it seems to be used just to refer to someone who can do their job without an excess amount of handholding. Being competent enough to work independently is an extremely low bar for the distinction of being a senior in your field. In most other industries that just means you’re not a trainee any longer. For example my wife just entered the medical field doing administrative work. She’ll be a trainee for a full year. It will be a decade or more before she’ll be qualified to be in any sort of senior role. I mean at the end of the day I don’t feel that strongly about it, but the problem is that when titles become meaningless it’s very hard to for example, communicate what role you’re hiring for, or who the right person to lead a new project is.

sheunl 4y ago

It varies from company to company and role to role.