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if you understand what RMS wrote (cmon it was 5 lines) you can't say they both "profess an anti-dogmatic , against 1984 approach". jobs used that approach in m

by gcb 15y ago

if you understand what RMS wrote (cmon it was 5 lines) you can't say they both "profess an anti-dogmatic , against 1984 approach". jobs used that approach in marketing, for sheeples to buy apple instead of IBM. If you think (not even hard) about it, you will realise iOS is nothing more then a portable IBM mainframe. you pay a hefty price, that no one in reality pays, or you pay a subscription for service, and only run approved software.

joesb 15y ago
> You pay a hefty price, that no one in reality pays What is this "hefty price"? Is it price without contract? Because we don't sell mobile phone with contract in my country and people still get iPhone.
- gcb 15y ago
  people don't buy phone without contract because they can't. The operators would be fools if they made that a good deal. In brazil it was like that. everyone bought phones along 2yr contracts "because they need to have a plan anyway". prices were always rising. it was a joke. then the regulatory agency said that you had to allow number portability between operators and added limits to contract breach fines. lot's of people would change ships every 2yr. or 1yr. or even sooner if the fine (1month) was worth the change in price. now in brazil you can buy a SIM card in a newstand for US$5. which includes $4.5 in prepaid credit. put into your cellphone, and use unlimited data for 24h for a mere $.25 that would be unthinkable if the operators still 'owned' everyones phone number and hold them for a minimum of 2yr. i left there on the first year after this regulation, and i was already paying for unlimited data on FIVE lines the same that i'm paying for AT&T in california for two lines.
  - gcb 15y ago
    also, forgot another regulation that contributes to this. if you get a new phone because of a 1 or 2yr contract, and you stay with that contract for the whole duration, at the end the operator must UNLOCK your phone for free.

by gcb 15y ago

joesb 15y ago

> You pay a hefty price, that no one in reality pays What is this "hefty price"? Is it price without contract? Because we don't sell mobile phone with contract in my country and people still get iPhone.

gcb 15y ago
people don't buy phone without contract because they can't. The operators would be fools if they made that a good deal. In brazil it was like that. everyone bought phones along 2yr contracts "because they need to have a plan anyway". prices were always rising. it was a joke. then the regulatory agency said that you had to allow number portability between operators and added limits to contract breach fines. lot's of people would change ships every 2yr. or 1yr. or even sooner if the fine (1month) was worth the change in price. now in brazil you can buy a SIM card in a newstand for US$5. which includes $4.5 in prepaid credit. put into your cellphone, and use unlimited data for 24h for a mere $.25 that would be unthinkable if the operators still 'owned' everyones phone number and hold them for a minimum of 2yr. i left there on the first year after this regulation, and i was already paying for unlimited data on FIVE lines the same that i'm paying for AT&T in california for two lines.
- gcb 15y ago
  also, forgot another regulation that contributes to this. if you get a new phone because of a 1 or 2yr contract, and you stay with that contract for the whole duration, at the end the operator must UNLOCK your phone for free.