> And who are these “engineers” who don’t use math, but just plug numbers into Excel? I am afraid of China. I’ve met many of their engineers and scientists, and

> And who are these “engineers” who don’t use math, but just plug numbers into Excel? I am afraid of China. I’ve met many of their engineers and scientists, and they sure as hell know math. Chinese engineering education is far inferior to Western according to every person I’ve ever met here who hired fresh graduates. I live in China.