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because that kind of transaction system isn't in high demand. People already suffer from choice-fatigue and if anything people are likely looking for bundles th

because that kind of transaction system isn't in high demand. People already suffer from choice-fatigue and if anything people are likely looking for bundles that give them access to more papers for a flat fee rather than the opposite. It's why Spotify and Apple Music exist rather than people paying a fraction of a cent for each song.

yellowapple 4y ago
And yet Bandcamp seems to be doing just fine.
ajsnigrutin 4y ago
Plus, as with everything involving money, this would cause even more clickbait to get those 25c out of you.
- linsomniac 4y ago
  Maybe. I surely can't be the only one that avoids otherwise interesting articles because of a clickbait title? I know if I click it, it's likely to be BS, and I'm likely to get more of them because wherever I'm reading it goes "Ah-hah!"
javajosh 4y ago
Isn't that the 12ft pivot? They can offer people a $10/mo subscription and then give them 100 articles or something spread across all the major publications, and forward that revenue "on demand". It's a classic pirate start: 12ft starts out life by hand subscribing to all the pubs, violating ToS by proxying 3rd party traffic through those subscriptions, demonstrating demand, and then they reach out to publications (carefully) and find out if they'd be willing to take a monthly check from 12ft that is less than they'd get if your N customers were paying the full subscription fee, but far more than the 0 you're currently getting from those customers. I think it's a good idea. Actually a great idea. The key is going to be dealing with narrow-minded execs irrationally attached to their current business model(s), and they will argue that this product removes their leverage to get more full-subscription customers. But if they can be rational and at least do the experiment, they'd get an easy OOM improvement in revenue.
- dymk 4y ago
  Why would any of the existing outlets play nice with a service that got their start pirating the outlets’ content?
  - javajosh 4y ago
    Stranger things have happened. I mean, would you have imagined in 1942 that within 20 years German and Japan were going to be staunch US allies?
    - dymk 4y ago
      Sure, all it took was the complete decimation of their existing governments. I think the equivalent action would be the 12ft.io domain gets transferred to a different owner with a different business plan.

yellowapple 4y ago

And yet Bandcamp seems to be doing just fine.

ajsnigrutin 4y ago

Plus, as with everything involving money, this would cause even more clickbait to get those 25c out of you.

linsomniac 4y ago
Maybe. I surely can't be the only one that avoids otherwise interesting articles because of a clickbait title? I know if I click it, it's likely to be BS, and I'm likely to get more of them because wherever I'm reading it goes "Ah-hah!"

javajosh 4y ago

Isn't that the 12ft pivot? They can offer people a $10/mo subscription and then give them 100 articles or something spread across all the major publications, and forward that revenue "on demand". It's a classic pirate start: 12ft starts out life by hand subscribing to all the pubs, violating ToS by proxying 3rd party traffic through those subscriptions, demonstrating demand, and then they reach out to publications (carefully) and find out if they'd be willing to take a monthly check from 12ft that is less than they'd get if your N customers were paying the full subscription fee, but far more than the 0 you're currently getting from those customers. I think it's a good idea. Actually a great idea. The key is going to be dealing with narrow-minded execs irrationally attached to their current business model(s), and they will argue that this product removes their leverage to get more full-subscription customers. But if they can be rational and at least do the experiment, they'd get an easy OOM improvement in revenue.

dymk 4y ago
Why would any of the existing outlets play nice with a service that got their start pirating the outlets’ content?
- javajosh 4y ago
  Stranger things have happened. I mean, would you have imagined in 1942 that within 20 years German and Japan were going to be staunch US allies?
  - dymk 4y ago
    Sure, all it took was the complete decimation of their existing governments. I think the equivalent action would be the 12ft.io domain gets transferred to a different owner with a different business plan.