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In my opinion if we keep popularizing technologies like this we will lose them. Look at the number of websites that are now blocking ad blockers because we all

In my opinion if we keep popularizing technologies like this we will lose them. Look at the number of websites that are now blocking ad blockers because we all installed ad blockers on our parents machines and popularized the technology. We should keep some technology under the radar and just for hackers.

wbobeirne 4y ago
Perhaps this is the ultimate way to gatekeep paywall circumvention for hackers only, you have to build your own novel solution for yourself. /s
walrus01 4y ago
maybe we need some kind of workaround for adblocker-blockers. load the entire page including the ads and javascript and strip it out on the client side for rendering. make the httpd side think that the client is a dead normal microsoft edge or chrome browser with zero plugins installed and deliver the page. it's an arms race the adblocker-blockers aren't going to win.
sva_ 4y ago
It'll always be a cat-and-mouse-game.
paxys 4y ago
No useful technology can be kept under the radar. In fact I think ad blocking is a good example of something that got so widespread that it became impossible to block. The "disable your adblocker to read this site" banners are quickly disappearing from the internet now that a critical mass of users has adopted them and companies are realizing they can't give up all that traffic.
- sefrost 4y ago
  Do you have any source to show that those banners are being removed? I haven't anecdotally noticed that.
  - paxys 4y ago
    Well you are the one who brought it up. Do you have a source to show that more of them are being added? Anecdotally I used to run into them all the time, but can't remember having seen a single one in like a year (or more) now.
- up6w6 4y ago
  Why won't companies give up that traffic if it's not profitable? We are still talking about articles, right?
  - paxys 4y ago
    The intention of blocking the traffic was to get users to disable ad-blockers. If they are not going to do that and just close the page, then the sites would rather have the views. The additional traffic costs them nothing.
- sofixa 4y ago
  Many websites just fail to load/work when an adblocker is enabled. Sometimes it's subtle like pressing a button does nothing, other times it's just a white page because React fails to initialise.

wbobeirne 4y ago

Perhaps this is the ultimate way to gatekeep paywall circumvention for hackers only, you have to build your own novel solution for yourself. /s

walrus01 4y ago

maybe we need some kind of workaround for adblocker-blockers. load the entire page including the ads and javascript and strip it out on the client side for rendering. make the httpd side think that the client is a dead normal microsoft edge or chrome browser with zero plugins installed and deliver the page. it's an arms race the adblocker-blockers aren't going to win.

sva_ 4y ago

It'll always be a cat-and-mouse-game.

paxys 4y ago

No useful technology can be kept under the radar. In fact I think ad blocking is a good example of something that got so widespread that it became impossible to block. The "disable your adblocker to read this site" banners are quickly disappearing from the internet now that a critical mass of users has adopted them and companies are realizing they can't give up all that traffic.

sefrost 4y ago
Do you have any source to show that those banners are being removed? I haven't anecdotally noticed that.
- paxys 4y ago
  Well you are the one who brought it up. Do you have a source to show that more of them are being added? Anecdotally I used to run into them all the time, but can't remember having seen a single one in like a year (or more) now.
up6w6 4y ago
Why won't companies give up that traffic if it's not profitable? We are still talking about articles, right?
- paxys 4y ago
  The intention of blocking the traffic was to get users to disable ad-blockers. If they are not going to do that and just close the page, then the sites would rather have the views. The additional traffic costs them nothing.
sofixa 4y ago
Many websites just fail to load/work when an adblocker is enabled. Sometimes it's subtle like pressing a button does nothing, other times it's just a white page because React fails to initialise.