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Not sure why you're being downvoted for pointing this out. She was responsible for "their" home. Not the tens of thousands of households across the empire. Ther

Not sure why you're being downvoted for pointing this out. She was responsible for "their" home. Not the tens of thousands of households across the empire. There was also a sentence where the scholar being interviewed estimates that women made up to 20% of Mongolian armies of that era. That just seems flatout unbelievable.

mrcheesebreeze 4y ago
he is being downvoted for the same reason this article exists, pc culture doesn't like being corrected. There is a war against historical accuracy for the sake of adding in women or random races that wouldn't be there. The annoying thing is that it makes no sense to do this because there are plenty of non-male or non-white leaders to pick from anyway. My favorite empire is the Ajuuran sultanate that was a very powerful african sultanate in modern day somalia. It traded as far as china and it had many victories over great powers like portugal. A great female leader that actually existed was queen boudica, one of the greatest celtic anti-roman rebels. She led her people and dealt a lot of damage to the roman invaders before she inevitably lost to the chads that are the roman legions. Rather than blackwash or add in random women we can just look to the parts of history that already contain that.
- kevinh 4y ago
  What portion of this article do you believe is inaccurate?
  - mrcheesebreeze 4y ago
    the main claim that borte ran the mongol empire, she didn't. She was a great help and most great leaders had amazing wives who helped them. Despite this her actions were greatly inflated by the title and main claim.
    - foobarian 4y ago
      Running an empire is a lot different than leading it. It's like COO and CEO, Sandberg and Zuck.
      - jterrys 4y ago
        Too bad that in reality her role would be more of executive assistant by those standards.
  - coupdejarnac 4y ago
    I'd take every claim in this article with a grain of salt. There simply isn't much documentation from that time in the Mongol empire.
ummonk 4y ago
I think they’re basing that claim on some buried women exhibiting archery and horseback riding strength in their skeletal structures. I doubt they routinely fought in the army, given the lack of contemporary accounts observing any women in the Mongol army. This contrasts with, say, the ancient Sarmatians, where we see female burials with actual weapons of war, and have contemporary accounts that women did fight extensively in battles. There, a figure of 20% would be roughly accurate.

mrcheesebreeze 4y ago

he is being downvoted for the same reason this article exists, pc culture doesn't like being corrected. There is a war against historical accuracy for the sake of adding in women or random races that wouldn't be there. The annoying thing is that it makes no sense to do this because there are plenty of non-male or non-white leaders to pick from anyway. My favorite empire is the Ajuuran sultanate that was a very powerful african sultanate in modern day somalia. It traded as far as china and it had many victories over great powers like portugal. A great female leader that actually existed was queen boudica, one of the greatest celtic anti-roman rebels. She led her people and dealt a lot of damage to the roman invaders before she inevitably lost to the chads that are the roman legions. Rather than blackwash or add in random women we can just look to the parts of history that already contain that.

kevinh 4y ago
What portion of this article do you believe is inaccurate?
- mrcheesebreeze 4y ago
  the main claim that borte ran the mongol empire, she didn't. She was a great help and most great leaders had amazing wives who helped them. Despite this her actions were greatly inflated by the title and main claim.
  - foobarian 4y ago
    Running an empire is a lot different than leading it. It's like COO and CEO, Sandberg and Zuck.
    - jterrys 4y ago
      Too bad that in reality her role would be more of executive assistant by those standards.
- coupdejarnac 4y ago
  I'd take every claim in this article with a grain of salt. There simply isn't much documentation from that time in the Mongol empire.

ummonk 4y ago

I think they’re basing that claim on some buried women exhibiting archery and horseback riding strength in their skeletal structures. I doubt they routinely fought in the army, given the lack of contemporary accounts observing any women in the Mongol army. This contrasts with, say, the ancient Sarmatians, where we see female burials with actual weapons of war, and have contemporary accounts that women did fight extensively in battles. There, a figure of 20% would be roughly accurate.