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Remember when everyone started getting Calendar spam because web pages abused being able to easily subscribe to a calendar? Yeah. I hope they have some safegua

Remember when everyone started getting Calendar spam because web pages abused being able to easily subscribe to a calendar? Yeah. I hope they have some safeguards here. At the very least, require an Apple Developer account so abusers can't hide behind anonymity. Also, let me pre-emptively disable this feature across all websites.

qgin 4y ago
My guess is all of that is why it's taking until 2023
llbeansandrice 4y ago
> Also, let me pre-emptively disable this feature across all websites. It's opt-in. RTFA. > Web push notifications > Adds support for opt‑in notifications on iOS. Coming in 2023.
- teakettle42 4y ago
  > It's opt-in. RTFA. I’m assuming that they, like me, never want to even be asked. The request itself winds up being a form of spam.
  - endisneigh 4y ago
    That’s not how it will work. You’ll have to go into safari advanced settings and toggle a feature flag. It’s been there until 15.3.
    - teakettle42 4y ago
      How do you know how an unreleased and barely-discussed feature is going to work in the future release? The current mechanism of operation has no bearing on the intended mechanism, and I cannot fathom why you think it would.
      - endisneigh 4y ago
        Lol, it’s literally the same feature flag. It just doesn’t do anything now. Apple has clarified when it will work.
        teakettle42 4y ago
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        endisneigh 4y ago
        Not at all. Feel free to come back to this thread in 2023 if you’d like.
        teakettle42 4y ago
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        endisneigh 4y ago
        > What happens in 2023? You’ll graduate middle school? Are you serious? Lol, smh…
        teakettle42 4y ago
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        endisneigh 4y ago
        > Am I serious that your replies on this topic have been so incredibly dense that one must conclude that either you’re a child, an idiot, or possibly both? > Yes. I am. Resorting to attacks huh? Pathetic, lol.
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    - dwaite 4y ago
      Safari Advanced Settings are for developer configuration and for toggling unreleased features, not for controlling shipped features.
brundolf 4y ago
Every other browser has supported these for years, and the sky hasn't fallen. If anything, the iOS implementation will probably be even more conservative than the others.
- mmis1000 4y ago
  I think chromium edge have a somewhat conservative one already. Edge now automatically bans sites that spam random notification request that rejected by everyone from pop up new request. Require user interaction for popping up request isn't really a clearly more strict one than edge currently does (probably equal or a bit more strict?).
- Nextgrid 4y ago
  > Every other browser has supported these for years And a lot of non-technical people I know had spam notifications coming up on their desktop because they opted into notifications on multiple spam sites over the years.

qgin 4y ago

My guess is all of that is why it's taking until 2023

llbeansandrice 4y ago

> Also, let me pre-emptively disable this feature across all websites. It's opt-in. RTFA. > Web push notifications > Adds support for opt‑in notifications on iOS. Coming in 2023.

teakettle42 4y ago
> It's opt-in. RTFA. I’m assuming that they, like me, never want to even be asked. The request itself winds up being a form of spam.
- endisneigh 4y ago
  That’s not how it will work. You’ll have to go into safari advanced settings and toggle a feature flag. It’s been there until 15.3.
  - teakettle42 4y ago
    How do you know how an unreleased and barely-discussed feature is going to work in the future release? The current mechanism of operation has no bearing on the intended mechanism, and I cannot fathom why you think it would.
    - endisneigh 4y ago
      Lol, it’s literally the same feature flag. It just doesn’t do anything now. Apple has clarified when it will work.
      - teakettle42 4y ago
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        endisneigh 4y ago
        Not at all. Feel free to come back to this thread in 2023 if you’d like.
        teakettle42 4y ago
        [deleted]
        endisneigh 4y ago
        > What happens in 2023? You’ll graduate middle school? Are you serious? Lol, smh…
        teakettle42 4y ago
        [deleted]
        endisneigh 4y ago
        > Am I serious that your replies on this topic have been so incredibly dense that one must conclude that either you’re a child, an idiot, or possibly both? > Yes. I am. Resorting to attacks huh? Pathetic, lol.
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  - dwaite 4y ago
    Safari Advanced Settings are for developer configuration and for toggling unreleased features, not for controlling shipped features.

brundolf 4y ago

Every other browser has supported these for years, and the sky hasn't fallen. If anything, the iOS implementation will probably be even more conservative than the others.

mmis1000 4y ago
I think chromium edge have a somewhat conservative one already. Edge now automatically bans sites that spam random notification request that rejected by everyone from pop up new request. Require user interaction for popping up request isn't really a clearly more strict one than edge currently does (probably equal or a bit more strict?).
Nextgrid 4y ago
> Every other browser has supported these for years And a lot of non-technical people I know had spam notifications coming up on their desktop because they opted into notifications on multiple spam sites over the years.