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> I think it's a great feature that let's apps like ProtonMail not require a desktop app. For many users, being forced into web-only non-native cloud “apps” is
by teakettle42 4y ago
> I think it's a great feature that let's apps like ProtonMail not require a desktop app.
For many users, being forced into web-only non-native cloud “apps” is not actually feature.
Especially for something like end-to-end ostensibly client-side encrypted e-mail.
- endisneigh 4y agoWhy would you be forced exactly? Developers can still make native apps.
- teakettle42 4y agoForced by developers that refuse to make the necessary investment in producing native applications, because — with features like web push notifications — the poor web UX is something these developers consider “good enough”. This thread is about actively facilitating that kind of behavior by developers.
- endisneigh 4y agoThat’s not what forced means. Consider that there are developers who have apps with no notifications at all. For some, something is better than nothing. Personally I like web notifications, if the site doesn’t implement them well then turn it off for that site.
- teakettle42 4y ago“Forced” means to be compelled by force or necessity. I’m forced to use crappy web apps for work. How does it benefit Apple — or Apple’s users — for Apple to facilitate forcing users into crappy, non-native web apps?
- endisneigh 4y agoAgain, no one is being forced. This isn’t even opt out, it’s opt-in. So, yeah, no one is forcing anyone. It’s simply an option.
- teakettle42 4y agoI don’t think you’ve read the thread you’re replying to, are replying without context, and are countering arguments nobody has made. We’re discussing the idea that this feature is valuable because it facilitates developers dropping native applications in favor of fully web-based replacements. The example given by the first poster was Protonmail, which performs client-side encryption, and which they argued would be better served by providing only a web application. I noted that this would not actually be desirable for most users, especially when the application in question must be trusted to implement client-side encryption for which the server should not have access to the private keying materials, as is the case for protonmail. There, hopefully you’re all caught up. I understand that you like the idea of this feature, but please read the threads you’re replying to.
- endisneigh 4y agoI did read the thread - no one is being forced, still. If you or anyone else doesn’t want it then you don’t have to do anything as it’s opt-in only. Hope you’re caught up.
- teakettle42 4y agoI’m sorry you still clearly don’t understand the thread, but given your response, it’s clear I’m ill-equipped to explain it to you, or you just don’t care to actually listen; perhaps someone else will assist.
- rektide 4y agoYour anti-feature is not a feature. This works for a huge number of people & is great. You holding your own tastes as absolute is petty. Dont.