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This is downvoted, but my intel MacBook Pro (maxed out specs) from 2015 really was dying on zoom / MS teams calls. Probably says a lot about those two apps, bu

by furyg3 4y ago

This is downvoted, but my intel MacBook Pro (maxed out specs) from 2015 really was dying on zoom / MS teams calls. Probably says a lot about those two apps, but this was one of the main reasons I upgraded to an M1 Mac during corona.

drcongo 4y ago
I'd forgotten, because I've had an M1 Pro for a while now, but Slack video calls on my last gen, maxed out Intel MBP could heat the thing enough to burn through to the earth's core.
theodric 4y ago
Yeah, same, that's why I resorted to water-cooling :) https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/so-i-water-cooled-my-macbook-pro.2290339/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/so-i-water-cooled-my-ma... It's pretty much silent now, even with the CPU governor pegged to max.
- bartread 4y ago
  Thank you! I've been looking for a water-cooled laptop solution. I've tried the fan based laptop coolers and they're basically a waste of time (plus they add to fan noise). This is what I wanted. Nobody sells it, but I don't mind a bit of fabbing.
  - DonHopkins 4y ago
    I had to rub a plastic bag of frozen peas on the bottom of my overheating x86 MBP to make an important zoom meeting one time. It made the peas inedible.
bartread 4y ago
Same, and same spec machine (2015 15" maxxed out everything). I did manage to make it handle Zoom just fine by opening it up and blowing it out with an air duster, which I've been doing about every 6 months since 2018 or so. The interior is a magnet for dust in a way that my Dell work laptop just isn't (even though that thing is a PoS in many other ways, most of which I suspect are down to Windows rather than the hardware). After a periodic dusting it runs a whole lot better - no lag or dropped frames - even when the fans come on. It's still a nightmare for fan noise compared with my 2011 17" MBP (again, maxxed retail specs, but then replaced internal drive with SSD - which made it a new machine - and upgraded to 16GB RAM because you can replace at least some stuff in machines of this vintage), which then unfortunately died due to the GPU desoldering issue (I've already "fixed" it once by reflowing the solder, but this only held for a couple of weeks before it died again). I think I'm going to wait for M2 MBPs and then splurge - hopefully get 7 years out of the new machine as well.
jrochkind1 4y ago
The only thing my 2015 pro had trouble with was Teams. No problem with Zoom for me. But Teams was a nightmare of dropped sound and video in both directions.
- maliker 4y ago
  I have had luck running Teams in the safari web app instead of the native (ahem Electron) app. Cuts the CPU usage down to 25% instead of 75%.
  - jrochkind1 4y ago
    Interesting, as an engineer, I wonder what explains that.
    - maliker 4y ago
      My guess is that the Electron app is using a generic video codec that they got working reliably across Windows/Mac/Linux, but Safari is forcing a more efficient one that's well-optimized for Mac only.
chrisweekly 4y ago
Bizarre how my 2012 mpb15r (16GB RAM, SSD) is still usable and maybe preferable to models 3 or 4 years newer.
- smartbit 4y ago
  Which os & version are you running?
  - chrisweekly 4y ago
    Catalina (10.15.7)
- jhugo 4y ago
  It's almost like different people have different expectations from their computer. (Different workloads, different environmental conditions, etc.)
throwaway09223 4y ago
Yes, mine too. I actually set up a large desk fan pointed at the keyboard to help dissipate the heat. Got so hot I would burn the tips of my fingers if I let them rest on the keyboard. It was not a well designed laptop.

by furyg3 4y ago

drcongo 4y ago

I'd forgotten, because I've had an M1 Pro for a while now, but Slack video calls on my last gen, maxed out Intel MBP could heat the thing enough to burn through to the earth's core.

theodric 4y ago

Yeah, same, that's why I resorted to water-cooling :) https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/so-i-water-cooled-my-macbook-pro.2290339/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/so-i-water-cooled-my-ma... It's pretty much silent now, even with the CPU governor pegged to max.

bartread 4y ago
Thank you! I've been looking for a water-cooled laptop solution. I've tried the fan based laptop coolers and they're basically a waste of time (plus they add to fan noise). This is what I wanted. Nobody sells it, but I don't mind a bit of fabbing.
- DonHopkins 4y ago
  I had to rub a plastic bag of frozen peas on the bottom of my overheating x86 MBP to make an important zoom meeting one time. It made the peas inedible.

bartread 4y ago

Same, and same spec machine (2015 15" maxxed out everything). I did manage to make it handle Zoom just fine by opening it up and blowing it out with an air duster, which I've been doing about every 6 months since 2018 or so. The interior is a magnet for dust in a way that my Dell work laptop just isn't (even though that thing is a PoS in many other ways, most of which I suspect are down to Windows rather than the hardware). After a periodic dusting it runs a whole lot better - no lag or dropped frames - even when the fans come on. It's still a nightmare for fan noise compared with my 2011 17" MBP (again, maxxed retail specs, but then replaced internal drive with SSD - which made it a new machine - and upgraded to 16GB RAM because you can replace at least some stuff in machines of this vintage), which then unfortunately died due to the GPU desoldering issue (I've already "fixed" it once by reflowing the solder, but this only held for a couple of weeks before it died again). I think I'm going to wait for M2 MBPs and then splurge - hopefully get 7 years out of the new machine as well.

jrochkind1 4y ago

The only thing my 2015 pro had trouble with was Teams. No problem with Zoom for me. But Teams was a nightmare of dropped sound and video in both directions.

maliker 4y ago
I have had luck running Teams in the safari web app instead of the native (ahem Electron) app. Cuts the CPU usage down to 25% instead of 75%.
- jrochkind1 4y ago
  Interesting, as an engineer, I wonder what explains that.
  - maliker 4y ago
    My guess is that the Electron app is using a generic video codec that they got working reliably across Windows/Mac/Linux, but Safari is forcing a more efficient one that's well-optimized for Mac only.

chrisweekly 4y ago

Bizarre how my 2012 mpb15r (16GB RAM, SSD) is still usable and maybe preferable to models 3 or 4 years newer.

smartbit 4y ago
Which os & version are you running?
- chrisweekly 4y ago
  Catalina (10.15.7)
jhugo 4y ago
It's almost like different people have different expectations from their computer. (Different workloads, different environmental conditions, etc.)

throwaway09223 4y ago

Yes, mine too. I actually set up a large desk fan pointed at the keyboard to help dissipate the heat. Got so hot I would burn the tips of my fingers if I let them rest on the keyboard. It was not a well designed laptop.