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great. on top of yearly environment destruction via phones. now there are whole displays, batteries, keyboards and a ton of other special material just to fuel

great. on top of yearly environment destruction via phones. now there are whole displays, batteries, keyboards and a ton of other special material just to fuel this greed carbon monster.

wollsmoth 4y ago
They aren't the only ones making new computers every year.
dwaite 4y ago
A very small portion of the population upgrade yearly, and having older devices go into a drawer or landfill is the most expensive option (over trade in/resale or hand-me-down to family members)
- Applejinx 4y ago
  As someone who recently traded back to Apple a whole pile of older machines, don't sleep on that option. I had some fancy stuff like an iMac Pro, and some stuff as far back as the first Retina iMac. I'd been sitting on them because 'I can use them for something' (and there was software I had perpetual license to that wasn't offering free update to Apple Silicon). Even the oldest stuff got me a couple hundred bucks from Apple in trade-in. The iMac Pro got me nearly three thousand dollars in trade-in. Don't sleep on the trade-in, you're feeding their 'refurbished' market and even if it goes to landfills it's not normal landfills, they're very interested in recycling some of the materials out of the machines. They wouldn't be offering that much in exchange if they weren't serious about it.
  - Applejinx 4y ago
    Later follow-up: I tried to check what the value was on my very new Macbook Pro, and it was shockingly low compared to the older Intel iMac Pro etc. Which makes me wonder if they're intentionally trying to get the Intel machines out of circulation in order to help their transition to Apple Silicon. Mind you, I got a good amount for the 1st-gen M1 laptop… I suspect it all depends, but definitely see what you're offered if you have a powerful but Intel-based Mac. It seems like that was the sweet spot for their trade-in value.

great. on top of yearly environment destruction via phones. now there are whole displays, batteries, keyboards and a ton of other special material just to fuel this greed carbon monster.

wollsmoth 4y ago

They aren't the only ones making new computers every year.

dwaite 4y ago

A very small portion of the population upgrade yearly, and having older devices go into a drawer or landfill is the most expensive option (over trade in/resale or hand-me-down to family members)

Applejinx 4y ago
As someone who recently traded back to Apple a whole pile of older machines, don't sleep on that option. I had some fancy stuff like an iMac Pro, and some stuff as far back as the first Retina iMac. I'd been sitting on them because 'I can use them for something' (and there was software I had perpetual license to that wasn't offering free update to Apple Silicon). Even the oldest stuff got me a couple hundred bucks from Apple in trade-in. The iMac Pro got me nearly three thousand dollars in trade-in. Don't sleep on the trade-in, you're feeding their 'refurbished' market and even if it goes to landfills it's not normal landfills, they're very interested in recycling some of the materials out of the machines. They wouldn't be offering that much in exchange if they weren't serious about it.
- Applejinx 4y ago
  Later follow-up: I tried to check what the value was on my very new Macbook Pro, and it was shockingly low compared to the older Intel iMac Pro etc. Which makes me wonder if they're intentionally trying to get the Intel machines out of circulation in order to help their transition to Apple Silicon. Mind you, I got a good amount for the 1st-gen M1 laptop… I suspect it all depends, but definitely see what you're offered if you have a powerful but Intel-based Mac. It seems like that was the sweet spot for their trade-in value.