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I'll switch once I can play my full Steam library on a machine like this. The power is there for sure.

yieldcrv 4y ago
I'm only a very casual gamer these days (although anyone I go on a date with would only see a gaming accessory or console and immediately think hardcore), I recently went down the gaming rabbithole to see what I can do with my M1. It seems like MacOS on M1 architecture can play almost everything! Like, there are so many titles that don't have OSX listed as ever being released for, but it can either be played out the box or with a slight tweak. But I guess that does preclude Steam releases if you don't have direct access to the per game, installers. And nowadays these indie games release on all major consoles, mobile, and windows, macos. What are you encountering? A few examples on whats missing for you?
- david_allison 4y ago
  Did you get any VR games working? https://www.applegamingwiki.com/wiki/Home https://www.applegamingwiki.com/wiki/Home paints a sorry picture of the state of M1 gaming (partially due to dropping 32 bit support).
  - yieldcrv 4y ago
    No VR! I’m sad I can’t get to experience Half Life Alyx, but I mostly forget
- lapetitejort 4y ago
  Three semi-broad examples, Elden Ring (Japanese dev), Horizon: Zero Dawn (Dutch dev, PS4 port), and Inscryption (indie dev) do not show MacOS support. I have not tried installing Windows-only games on a Mac. Can they be installed regardless if they don't show support? Does Valve have Mac-specific APIs to get them runnable like they do for Linux?
- culopatin 4y ago
  Can you expand on “almost everything” and what you do to achieve that?
  - yieldcrv 4y ago
    I look at tables online that show game compatibility and experiences Its surprisingly good and I think this is partially because of Apple’s network effects But aside from that the rosetta translations work really well, allowing a lot of x86/x64 to work And then there is Crossover which is a GUI for WINE And then VMs I got a Windows 95 game playing on my M1 yesterday with Crossover, more resource intensive stuff seems to be doing well too, with maybe flagship games failing some enthusiast benchmark
vimy 4y ago
https://www.codeweavers.com/crossover https://www.codeweavers.com/crossover Works surprisingly well. You can find videos on youtube.
stetrain 4y ago
Yeah, I wish Valve and Apple would make nice (like they did back in the day for Steam on Mac) enough to: 1) Update all the first-party Valve games to 64-bit since the 32-bit binaries are no longer supported 2) Bring Proton support to MacOS, which is what Steam uses to run Windows games on Linux and the Steam Deck console.
- enragedcacti 4y ago
  Apple would probably need to do the heavy lifting on (2) by either adding Vulkan support to their GPU drivers or by adding Metal support to Proton.
  - stetrain 4y ago
    Yep. It would be awesome, but I feel like Apple wouldn't be very enthusiastic about putting in effort for an emulated solution over native games.
redox99 4y ago
The comparison Apple makes with NVIDIA GPUs is very exaggerated. But yes, it should be able to game.

I'm only a very casual gamer these days (although anyone I go on a date with would only see a gaming accessory or console and immediately think hardcore), I recently went down the gaming rabbithole to see what I can do with my M1. It seems like MacOS on M1 architecture can play almost everything! Like, there are so many titles that don't have OSX listed as ever being released for, but it can either be played out the box or with a slight tweak. But I guess that does preclude Steam releases if you don't have direct access to the per game, installers. And nowadays these indie games release on all major consoles, mobile, and windows, macos. What are you encountering? A few examples on whats missing for you?

david_allison 4y ago
Did you get any VR games working? https://www.applegamingwiki.com/wiki/Home https://www.applegamingwiki.com/wiki/Home paints a sorry picture of the state of M1 gaming (partially due to dropping 32 bit support).
- yieldcrv 4y ago
  No VR! I’m sad I can’t get to experience Half Life Alyx, but I mostly forget
lapetitejort 4y ago
Three semi-broad examples, Elden Ring (Japanese dev), Horizon: Zero Dawn (Dutch dev, PS4 port), and Inscryption (indie dev) do not show MacOS support. I have not tried installing Windows-only games on a Mac. Can they be installed regardless if they don't show support? Does Valve have Mac-specific APIs to get them runnable like they do for Linux?
culopatin 4y ago
Can you expand on “almost everything” and what you do to achieve that?
- yieldcrv 4y ago
  I look at tables online that show game compatibility and experiences Its surprisingly good and I think this is partially because of Apple’s network effects But aside from that the rosetta translations work really well, allowing a lot of x86/x64 to work And then there is Crossover which is a GUI for WINE And then VMs I got a Windows 95 game playing on my M1 yesterday with Crossover, more resource intensive stuff seems to be doing well too, with maybe flagship games failing some enthusiast benchmark

vimy 4y ago

https://www.codeweavers.com/crossover https://www.codeweavers.com/crossover Works surprisingly well. You can find videos on youtube.

stetrain 4y ago

Yeah, I wish Valve and Apple would make nice (like they did back in the day for Steam on Mac) enough to: 1) Update all the first-party Valve games to 64-bit since the 32-bit binaries are no longer supported 2) Bring Proton support to MacOS, which is what Steam uses to run Windows games on Linux and the Steam Deck console.

enragedcacti 4y ago
Apple would probably need to do the heavy lifting on (2) by either adding Vulkan support to their GPU drivers or by adding Metal support to Proton.
- stetrain 4y ago
  Yep. It would be awesome, but I feel like Apple wouldn't be very enthusiastic about putting in effort for an emulated solution over native games.

redox99 4y ago

The comparison Apple makes with NVIDIA GPUs is very exaggerated. But yes, it should be able to game.