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> That is why nobody buys windows based laptops anymore and the macbook air is the best selling laptop A huge majority buy windows based laptops. Macbook Air'

> That is why nobody buys windows based laptops anymore and the macbook air is the best selling laptop A huge majority buy windows based laptops. Macbook Air's are the best selling laptop because of the fragmentation of the Windows laptop market amongst manufacturers. MacOS does not in any way make up a majority of laptops. I get that it is 2001 again and we should all be shitting on MS, but let's try and keep some facts in the conversation.

Shadonototra 4y ago
Incapable of attacking my argument about fanless/power efficiency, instead you nitpick on the sales > I get that it is 2001 again and we should all be shitting on MS, but let's try and keep some facts in the conversation. That's a windows 11 with snapdragon for you! fanless! ha
- Beltalowda 4y ago
  It's not a "nitpick" you made a specific claim. Not the person you're replying to but I'll reply: I think the M1 is really nice, although I don't care much for some other MacBook hardware design decisions and I don't care much for macOS either, so I didn't buy one, but I did spend some time considering it and looking at options. In the meanwhile, my current ThinkPad is "effectively fanless, most of the time". What this means is that as I'm typing this it doesn't need any fans. It doesn't most of the time, even when I'm programming and compile my project (incremental compiles) it doesn't need the fans, and it remains fairly cool as well. With full compiles or some (not even all) games it does need the fans, and that's okay with me. And this laptop is actually 4/5 years old; I got it "second-hand new". Newer ones are even better. Oh, and the battery also lasts about 15 hours on a full charge, which is not as good as a M1 machine, but "more than good enough" for me. So "full fanless" would certainly be nice, but in the meanwhile "mostly fanless" is actually just fine. Also remember that Apple only makes top-of-the-line laptops; if you buy a cheap Windows laptop: yeah, you're not getting an especially good laptop. But if you buy something in the same price range you often (not always) get something much more comparable.

Shadonototra 4y ago

Incapable of attacking my argument about fanless/power efficiency, instead you nitpick on the sales > I get that it is 2001 again and we should all be shitting on MS, but let's try and keep some facts in the conversation. That's a windows 11 with snapdragon for you! fanless! ha

Beltalowda 4y ago
It's not a "nitpick" you made a specific claim. Not the person you're replying to but I'll reply: I think the M1 is really nice, although I don't care much for some other MacBook hardware design decisions and I don't care much for macOS either, so I didn't buy one, but I did spend some time considering it and looking at options. In the meanwhile, my current ThinkPad is "effectively fanless, most of the time". What this means is that as I'm typing this it doesn't need any fans. It doesn't most of the time, even when I'm programming and compile my project (incremental compiles) it doesn't need the fans, and it remains fairly cool as well. With full compiles or some (not even all) games it does need the fans, and that's okay with me. And this laptop is actually 4/5 years old; I got it "second-hand new". Newer ones are even better. Oh, and the battery also lasts about 15 hours on a full charge, which is not as good as a M1 machine, but "more than good enough" for me. So "full fanless" would certainly be nice, but in the meanwhile "mostly fanless" is actually just fine. Also remember that Apple only makes top-of-the-line laptops; if you buy a cheap Windows laptop: yeah, you're not getting an especially good laptop. But if you buy something in the same price range you often (not always) get something much more comparable.