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For Air too: https://www.apple.com/macbook-air-m2/specs/ https://www.apple.com/macbook-air-m2/specs/ > Configurable to: 16GB or 24GB Store is updated too, 16G

For Air too: https://www.apple.com/macbook-air-m2/specs/ https://www.apple.com/macbook-air-m2/specs/ > Configurable to: 16GB or 24GB Store is updated too, 16GB upgrade is 200$ and 24GB is 400$.

UmbertoNoEco 4y ago
400 USD for a 16GB upgrade is daylight street robbery. The power of brands.
- gjsman-1000 4y ago
  Actually, when you consider how many banks of memory it would take to obtain 100GB/s, it's a bargain. Desktop DDR5-4800 tops out at 38.4 GB/s, so you would need three, desktop DDR5 memory sticks to get that - but it would not even matter because a 12th Gen desktop Intel Core i9 can't handle more than 75GB/s at once. Now, DDR5 is falling in price, but low-power laptop grade DDR5 is still quite a specialized part, let alone with such bandwidth potential. In a nutshell, not all RAM is created equal.
  - jltsiren 4y ago
    Apple charges $400 for 32 GB when you upgrade the memory in computers with M1 Max. That used to be a decent price, at least before DDR5 prices started falling. The M2 memory upgrade is twice as expensive. Edit: 16 -> 32 GB with M1 Pro is $400. 32 -> 64 GB with M1 Max is also $400. 64 -> 128 GB with M1 Ultra is $800. Memory upgrades for the high-end Macs are surprisingly cost-effective.
    - gjsman-1000 4y ago
      This is not true. The M1 Max machines start with 16GB of RAM, upgradable to 32GB, so you are adding 16GB more for $400. The new M2 machine starts with 8GB of RAM, upgradable to 24GB for $400. They are both adding 16GB for $400 or 8GB for $200 if you check, so the cost of upgrades is exactly the same.
- bitwize 4y ago
  For slow-ass DIMM memory, sure. But we're talking on-die integrated memory that's leagues ahead of any PC memory in performance.
  - MikusR 4y ago
    Its on package not die
  - gorbypark 4y ago
    It's actually in-package, not on-die. It's still insanely fast, though.
goosedragons 4y ago
Kind of ridiculous when you can get 64GB of laptop RAM for less than $400 easily. I still don't get why the M-series chips have such ridiculously low memory ceilings.
- ianai 4y ago
  It’s DDR5 on-die ram. The M1 ultra is essentially 4 M1s with an on-die messaging fabric and separate ram for each compute “node”, iirc.
skrause 4y ago
Which is the same per GB price that I paid 10 years ago to upgrade my 2012 MacBook Air from 4 to 8 GB, which cost $100.
postalrat 4y ago
$400 should buy 128gb, not 16gb.

For Air too: https://www.apple.com/macbook-air-m2/specs/ https://www.apple.com/macbook-air-m2/specs/ > Configurable to: 16GB or 24GB Store is updated too, 16GB upgrade is 200$ and 24GB is 400$.

UmbertoNoEco 4y ago

400 USD for a 16GB upgrade is daylight street robbery. The power of brands.

gjsman-1000 4y ago
Actually, when you consider how many banks of memory it would take to obtain 100GB/s, it's a bargain. Desktop DDR5-4800 tops out at 38.4 GB/s, so you would need three, desktop DDR5 memory sticks to get that - but it would not even matter because a 12th Gen desktop Intel Core i9 can't handle more than 75GB/s at once. Now, DDR5 is falling in price, but low-power laptop grade DDR5 is still quite a specialized part, let alone with such bandwidth potential. In a nutshell, not all RAM is created equal.
- jltsiren 4y ago
  Apple charges $400 for 32 GB when you upgrade the memory in computers with M1 Max. That used to be a decent price, at least before DDR5 prices started falling. The M2 memory upgrade is twice as expensive. Edit: 16 -> 32 GB with M1 Pro is $400. 32 -> 64 GB with M1 Max is also $400. 64 -> 128 GB with M1 Ultra is $800. Memory upgrades for the high-end Macs are surprisingly cost-effective.
  - gjsman-1000 4y ago
    This is not true. The M1 Max machines start with 16GB of RAM, upgradable to 32GB, so you are adding 16GB more for $400. The new M2 machine starts with 8GB of RAM, upgradable to 24GB for $400. They are both adding 16GB for $400 or 8GB for $200 if you check, so the cost of upgrades is exactly the same.
bitwize 4y ago
For slow-ass DIMM memory, sure. But we're talking on-die integrated memory that's leagues ahead of any PC memory in performance.
- MikusR 4y ago
  Its on package not die
- gorbypark 4y ago
  It's actually in-package, not on-die. It's still insanely fast, though.

goosedragons 4y ago

Kind of ridiculous when you can get 64GB of laptop RAM for less than $400 easily. I still don't get why the M-series chips have such ridiculously low memory ceilings.

ianai 4y ago
It’s DDR5 on-die ram. The M1 ultra is essentially 4 M1s with an on-die messaging fabric and separate ram for each compute “node”, iirc.

skrause 4y ago

Which is the same per GB price that I paid 10 years ago to upgrade my 2012 MacBook Air from 4 to 8 GB, which cost $100.

postalrat 4y ago

$400 should buy 128gb, not 16gb.