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They were so careful not to compare it to the M1 Pro!
by Escapado 4y ago
They were so careful not to compare it to the M1 Pro!
- swyx 4y agocan anyone knowledgeable please oblige us with a comparison?
- masklinn 4y agoThe CPU cores of the M1 and M1P are exactly the same (just with different mixes, and different boosting behaviour on the E cores). If the M2 has 18% higher PPW, and keeps the same TDP / power draw, that's 18% higher performances (remains to be seen whether it's across the board for E-cores, or for P-cores) it's about 25% below the 6+2 M1 Pro, and about 70% below the 8+2 M1P. At least looking purely at the CPU.
- paulmd 4y ago14" MBP gets the M1 Pro/Max, not the base-tier M1. The M1 Pro is a 6+2 configuration, so it will have a little bit of an edge in core configuration, but Apple claims 18% faster on this generation, which might cancel out that edge a little bit (I'm guessing slightly slower still, but close). The M1 Pro does have a 40% larger GPU, but the M2 is 35% faster (again, taking Apple at face value) so it should again be similar-ish in gpu performance, very slightly slower (135/140 = 96% as fast). The big difference is still that M1 Pro gets support for much larger memory, and the 14" has a much better port configuration, the 13" is basically still the same old chassis with USB-C and the touch bar, just updated with a newer processor.
- stetrain 4y agoM1 Pro is either 6+2 or 8+2 depending on which model you select.
- cehrlich 4y agoM2 will be faster in single core, M1 Pro will be faster in multi core. Taking Apple's 20% claim at face value: Geekbench Single Core - M1, M1 Pro: 1700, M2: 2040 Geekbench Multi Core - M1: 7700, M1 Pro 8-core: 9000, M2: 9200, M1 Pro 10-core: 12400 Of course we'll see M2 Pro/Max sooner or later, which will presumably match M2 on single core just like the previous gen.
- joakleaf 4y agoApple's 20% was for multi-core.
- skavi 4y agoThe M1 and M2 have the same number of cores. I suppose the fabric could have been improved for the M2.
- sgerenser 4y agoMulti core uplift will be a bit more than single core, because the “little” cores improved more than the big ones. 18% multi core uplift, but only 12-15% single core. Weak cores might have increased by 25% or so but they’re still much slower than the big cores so don’t affect “single core” performance.
- ohgodplsno 4y ago>Taking Apple's 20% claim at face value: Which you shouldn't. They are, once again, using performance per watt. Nothing guarantees that it even runs at the same wattage.
- randyrand 4y agoM1 Pro is 35B transistors, M2 is 20B, fyi.
- jasonlfunk 4y agoWhy would they? This is the base M2.
- ysleepy 4y agoM2 will outperform the M1 Pro variants on single core perf, since it is the same across all M1 chips apart from the memory bandwidth.
- skohan 4y agoIt's hard to imagine needing this honestly. I'm typing this on an M1 air, and even on this chip it's so snappy and quick even on things like larger compilation jobs. I'm not on the super-power-user end, but imo the price/performance for the air, as well as the form factor seems to be a sweet spot.
- shepherdjerred 4y agoSingle threaded performance is very useful for gaming, but I agree that the M1 is so fast that anything faster is just a bonus.
- skohan 4y agoWhich games can you even play on a mac?
- dumpsterdiver 4y agoThere's always MUDs!
- opan 4y agoMinecraft with shaders and a high-res resource pack.
- lynguist 4y agoI myself played Ratchet & Clank 3 on PCSX2 on my Macbook Air M1.
- asdff 4y agoI was pricing it out, to get 512gb and 16gb of memory its $1700. You might as well save $25 a week until september and buy the m2 pro that comes stock with more memory and storage when they inevitably update the 14 inch and sell it for $2000. Better yet, wait 6 months and buy the refurbished m2 pro for $1700...
- reaperducer 4y agoYou might as well save $25 a week until september The best tool is the one you have, not the one that doesn't exist. In September you could then wait for the M2 MAX coming in June. The in June wait for the M3 in September. I can't imagine telling a client, "I'll get that video to you around Christmas. I'm waiting for another version of a computer that just came out to come out." When it's raining, you want an umbrella, not to wait in the rain until someone builds a cafe to hide in.
- asdff 4y agoIf you are in the business of returning a video to a client by a deadline, chances are you aren't working on it with this computer placed at the bottom of the lineup with two ports.
- nathancahill 4y agoBuy $1700 worth of Apple stock and hold it for 12 months instead.
- intrasight 4y agoWish I could tell my young adult self to do that in the past. If I'd bought Apple stock instead of a new mac in '93 and kept it, I'd be worth about $3M