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> Party leadership is allowed to have preferences; the party isn't the public, it's a party. It's a club and you ain't in it, isn't really going to get the you

> Party leadership is allowed to have preferences; the party isn't the public, it's a party. It's a club and you ain't in it, isn't really going to get the young people to the polls.

themacguffinman 4y ago
Young people will first have to demonstrate that they are capable of going to the polls for anything. Democracy is a civic duty, it's not some customer support department. "2/5, wasn't friendly, will not go to the polls again"
- trasz 4y ago
  Why would they waste their time on something that's, as been found time and time again, simply doesn't work? US policy is shaped by lobby groups, not voter's beliefs.
- willcipriano 4y ago
  That'll show em! You guys just need to have a few more disastrous election losses on they will come back begging to vote for the leaderships preferred candidate.
  - shadowgovt 4y ago
    N'ah. A few more disastrous election losses and they won't have to vote anymore at all.
    - willcipriano 4y ago
      If your thesis is correct we shall see in a few months.
      - shadowgovt 4y ago
        Looking at past historical trends, I'd give it about 8 years. https://libraries.wm.edu/exhibits/irrepressible-conflict-or-blundering-generation-coming-civil-war https://libraries.wm.edu/exhibits/irrepressible-conflict-or-...
  - themacguffinman 4y ago
    If young people don't go to the polls, they are a non-factor in election wins & losses. Eventually they'll figure that out when politicians continue to spend their tax dollars serving the interests of the people who vote, not the people who whine. But sure, continue snarkily throwing away your vote, continue whining about disastrous elections. Who cares if you have to live in the society you threw away your vote in, as long as those snooty leadership preferred candidates suffer it's all worth it.
shadowgovt 4y ago
Indeed, and Sanders does seem to have a consistent problem with young people claiming they're going to vote for him and then just... Not. Every alleged slight the DNC made against Sanders would not have excluded him from the party nomination if voters had voted for him in the primary. But at the end of the day, the numbers didn't manifest.

> Party leadership is allowed to have preferences; the party isn't the public, it's a party. It's a club and you ain't in it, isn't really going to get the young people to the polls.

themacguffinman 4y ago

Young people will first have to demonstrate that they are capable of going to the polls for anything. Democracy is a civic duty, it's not some customer support department. "2/5, wasn't friendly, will not go to the polls again"

trasz 4y ago
Why would they waste their time on something that's, as been found time and time again, simply doesn't work? US policy is shaped by lobby groups, not voter's beliefs.
willcipriano 4y ago
That'll show em! You guys just need to have a few more disastrous election losses on they will come back begging to vote for the leaderships preferred candidate.
- shadowgovt 4y ago
  N'ah. A few more disastrous election losses and they won't have to vote anymore at all.
  - willcipriano 4y ago
    If your thesis is correct we shall see in a few months.
    - shadowgovt 4y ago
      Looking at past historical trends, I'd give it about 8 years. https://libraries.wm.edu/exhibits/irrepressible-conflict-or-blundering-generation-coming-civil-war https://libraries.wm.edu/exhibits/irrepressible-conflict-or-...
- themacguffinman 4y ago
  If young people don't go to the polls, they are a non-factor in election wins & losses. Eventually they'll figure that out when politicians continue to spend their tax dollars serving the interests of the people who vote, not the people who whine. But sure, continue snarkily throwing away your vote, continue whining about disastrous elections. Who cares if you have to live in the society you threw away your vote in, as long as those snooty leadership preferred candidates suffer it's all worth it.

shadowgovt 4y ago

Indeed, and Sanders does seem to have a consistent problem with young people claiming they're going to vote for him and then just... Not. Every alleged slight the DNC made against Sanders would not have excluded him from the party nomination if voters had voted for him in the primary. But at the end of the day, the numbers didn't manifest.