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It's like article author has never watched a nature documentary where gorillas kill other gorillas for territory (or most other species similar). Humans are be
by czbond 4y ago
It's like article author has never watched a nature documentary where gorillas kill other gorillas for territory (or most other species similar).
Humans are bell curve like all other species. Nature rewards either strength, physical advantage, or mental advantage.... and there is constant competition. That's just the way it works in human nature.... humans are wired that way.
You either participate, don't, or find a different way. Griping about it accomplishes little. The gorilla that is sad he's not a silver back gets his skull crushed.
- chasd00 4y agoi don't know why you were downvoted. I mentioned basically the same in another comment, you can't just turn off competition between humans. Competition is a fundamental component of all known life. You can opt out but then complaining that the rest of humanity has not chose to opt out isn't really fair.
- rightbyte 4y agoI think the argument is that "grinders" are doing themselves a disservice? I.e. a competitive strategy would be to make your competitors burn out and cheer the chrunch culture while you yourself slack off.
- czbond 4y agoThe competitive strategy idea does work - except for there is a singular you/me and endless competition (humans looking to advance themselves)
- lanstin 4y agoBecause without cooperation you don’t get the internet, you don’t get compilers, you don’t get HTML on top of C. And humans are strongly biased towards cooperation. Saying everything eats each other is flat wrong about people. Better to understand cooperation and competition as two ends on a continuum of “how to allocate people to solve problems”.
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- incanus77 4y agoThat assumes a zero-sum game in all cases. It is not.
- czbond 4y agoI don't disagree that 'it' isn't a zero-sum game. I'm a proponent of 'humane capitalism' (term I made up) ..... which dials back the sociopathic nature of capitalism to be a society multiplier, rather than resource hoarder. An example - although people disagree with Musks's methods, an alternate version of Tesla/SpaceX that treats employees more well rounded like, would be a great model. Advancing society, and helping those involved in creating it.
- coalpha 4y agoJust because it happens in nature, doesn't mean it's good. I don't really understand the "gets his skull crushed" part. Is that supposed to mean something like "If you continue to feel bad in a way that interrupts 'the grind' you will be crushed so stop feeling bad"? That mindset doesn't sound like something that most people can or should participate in. It sounds toxic. Grinding hard is being sold to people as some kind of normal that everyone should participate in. And people buy into it, myself included. Maybe I'm not a so-called Silverback and I think this article (short essay?) is trying to validate that it's OK. In the end, I do agree with "either participate, don't, or find a different way" but I think it might be a tad dismissive to call this "griping" unworthwhile. In order to push back against the culture of grinding, we gotta start somewhere, even if it's by "griping".
- lanstin 4y agoHumans are biased biologically towards cooperation. E.g. language skills and social organization into small groups, extended childhood, ability to empathize with outhers emotional states. Humans who are not part of a group do not live long or well. Competition is just an artificially set up arrangement to find good solutions where the answer isn’t that obvious, like the allocation of goods and services in a multi-producer, multi-consumer money based economy. Free markets can work quite well when they avoid concentration of power in large corporations that start to violate the axioms of a free market, or when the corporations can overwhelm the government and stop regulation. But the sense of competition of all against all they seem to inspire is not accurate.