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>Almost zero planning/research and they are surprised they had a bad experience? B) The author did much planning, as described in TFA, other commenters have no

>Almost zero planning/research and they are surprised they had a bad experience? B) The author did much planning, as described in TFA, other commenters have noted this. The author just didn't have the requisite experience to know their plan was unrealistic. B) Having to to planning/research in that level of detail the kind of stuff you expect when you're like "Imma tow my big-ass boat over the mountains with my old minivan", not when you're renting a modern car for a trip with no special requirements.

joshstrange 4y ago
Hard disagree. An EV at home/around town should be something you don't have to even think about (let it charge overnight at your house) but I would never consider going on a trip longer than 1 full charge worth of range without mapping out the route. There appear to be apps that specifically do this for you instead of just searching for stations along your route as you go and no excuse as to why they didn't do that (other than trying on purpose to make EVs sound bad or being woefully bad at planning).
- throwaway0a5e 4y ago
  What did I say that you are disagreeing with? >but I would never consider going on a trip longer than 1 full charge worth of range without mapping out the route. This represents a level of planning that is far greater than what has been the status quo since the advent of consumer GPS, arguably longer. > without mapping out the route. There appear to be apps that specifically do this for you instead of just searching for stations along your route as you go and no excuse as to why they didn't do that (other than trying on purpose to make EVs sound bad or being woefully bad at planning). Having to search for services in advance is a regression to the days of paper maps, road atlas's and printed tourist guides (though in those days people were searching for food/lodging, not fuel, but it's mostly the same IMO). I think the author was naive to just wing it but anyone pretending the current state of EVs is not a regression is either being dishonest or naively projecting their specific use case (traveling with family, lots of stops, etc) onto everyone.
  - joshstrange 4y ago
    I never said that EVs don't have some regressions but anyone who gets behind the wheel of one and doesn't take that into account is not someone I would trust with almost anything requiring problem solving skills. I'm not aware of anyone saying "You can jump in an EV and go anywhere with reckless abandon", I know you can more or less do this with ICEs but no one is saying they are completely equivalent. If you want to save money on the medium your car uses (gas vs electric) there are currently some downsides that you may or may not find acceptable. Jumping into an EV and expecting it to work just like an ICE or to be able to do a cross-country trip with little planning or knowledge of the car you are using is just silly. There are countless videos/articles about people successfully doing this, but that's not as interesting as this clickbait BS.

joshstrange 4y ago

Hard disagree. An EV at home/around town should be something you don't have to even think about (let it charge overnight at your house) but I would never consider going on a trip longer than 1 full charge worth of range without mapping out the route. There appear to be apps that specifically do this for you instead of just searching for stations along your route as you go and no excuse as to why they didn't do that (other than trying on purpose to make EVs sound bad or being woefully bad at planning).

throwaway0a5e 4y ago
What did I say that you are disagreeing with? >but I would never consider going on a trip longer than 1 full charge worth of range without mapping out the route. This represents a level of planning that is far greater than what has been the status quo since the advent of consumer GPS, arguably longer. > without mapping out the route. There appear to be apps that specifically do this for you instead of just searching for stations along your route as you go and no excuse as to why they didn't do that (other than trying on purpose to make EVs sound bad or being woefully bad at planning). Having to search for services in advance is a regression to the days of paper maps, road atlas's and printed tourist guides (though in those days people were searching for food/lodging, not fuel, but it's mostly the same IMO). I think the author was naive to just wing it but anyone pretending the current state of EVs is not a regression is either being dishonest or naively projecting their specific use case (traveling with family, lots of stops, etc) onto everyone.
- joshstrange 4y ago
  I never said that EVs don't have some regressions but anyone who gets behind the wheel of one and doesn't take that into account is not someone I would trust with almost anything requiring problem solving skills. I'm not aware of anyone saying "You can jump in an EV and go anywhere with reckless abandon", I know you can more or less do this with ICEs but no one is saying they are completely equivalent. If you want to save money on the medium your car uses (gas vs electric) there are currently some downsides that you may or may not find acceptable. Jumping into an EV and expecting it to work just like an ICE or to be able to do a cross-country trip with little planning or knowledge of the car you are using is just silly. There are countless videos/articles about people successfully doing this, but that's not as interesting as this clickbait BS.