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> Does that make me an extremist? That depends on the justification that you offer. If your justification is (say) that you have a God-given right to sexually

by lisper 4y ago

> Does that make me an extremist? That depends on the justification that you offer. If your justification is (say) that you have a God-given right to sexually exploit children with impunity, then yes, I'd say that qualifies you as an extremist. If your justification is that CSAM scanning does more harm than good, and you can back that up with actual facts, then no.

gruez 4y ago
> If your justification is (say) that you have a God-given right to sexually exploit children with impunity, then yes, I'd say that qualifies you as an extremist. It's easy to call pedophiles "extremists", but what if my argument is "I have a God-given right to not have my on-device data searched"?
- lisper 4y ago
  The part that makes that position extremist in my view is the "God-given" bit, not anything that comes after. Because anyone can say "I have a God-given right to X" for any X and there is no way to challenge that. It is the built-in immunity to challenge that makes such a position extremist.
  - giantg2 4y ago
    There's nothing in the definition you gave earlier to support this interpretation. All that is required is that it be an immoderate or uncompromising position.
    - lisper 4y ago
      But justification is part of one's position. If you hold your position because you believe it is grounded in the Word of God, then no evidence or argument is going to dissuade you.
      - giantg2 4y ago
        A new interpretation of the word of God could. Cognitive dissonance is an equally large issue in my opinion. Justification isn't really part of the position, it's how you arrived at it.
giantg2 4y ago
The definition given has nothing to do with justification. It only concerns itself with immoderate or uncompromising positions.
- lisper 4y ago
  If you hold your position because you believe it is grounded in the Word of God, then no evidence or argument is going to dissuade you. That is what "uncompromising" means.

by lisper 4y ago

gruez 4y ago

> If your justification is (say) that you have a God-given right to sexually exploit children with impunity, then yes, I'd say that qualifies you as an extremist. It's easy to call pedophiles "extremists", but what if my argument is "I have a God-given right to not have my on-device data searched"?

lisper 4y ago
The part that makes that position extremist in my view is the "God-given" bit, not anything that comes after. Because anyone can say "I have a God-given right to X" for any X and there is no way to challenge that. It is the built-in immunity to challenge that makes such a position extremist.
- giantg2 4y ago
  There's nothing in the definition you gave earlier to support this interpretation. All that is required is that it be an immoderate or uncompromising position.
  - lisper 4y ago
    But justification is part of one's position. If you hold your position because you believe it is grounded in the Word of God, then no evidence or argument is going to dissuade you.
    - giantg2 4y ago
      A new interpretation of the word of God could. Cognitive dissonance is an equally large issue in my opinion. Justification isn't really part of the position, it's how you arrived at it.

giantg2 4y ago

The definition given has nothing to do with justification. It only concerns itself with immoderate or uncompromising positions.

lisper 4y ago
If you hold your position because you believe it is grounded in the Word of God, then no evidence or argument is going to dissuade you. That is what "uncompromising" means.