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I don't believe the US has any interest in "helping Ukraine", let alone the people of Ukraine, considering its interaction with Ukraine over the past 31 years;

I don't believe the US has any interest in "helping Ukraine", let alone the people of Ukraine, considering its interaction with Ukraine over the past 31 years; and considering how it is "helping" or not-"helping" other world states right now. And yes, the US is just coercing others into its foreign policy campaign against Russia under the guise of "punishment". The aggressor which most needs weakening is the one that's able to hijack SWIFT and dictate to third parties whom they can trade with.

yetihehe 4y ago
> don't believe the US has any interest in "helping Ukraine", let alone the people of Ukraine, In this case, "Enemy of my enemy is my friend.". "Not having interest in helping Ukraine" doesn't mean that USA wants to hurt Ukraine. And if it does, well, Russia wants it much more, so it would be still wise for Ukrainians to side with USA. But USA does indeed have one big interest in helping Ukraine. While helping them, they hurt Russia. > The aggressor which most needs weakening is the one that's able to hijack SWIFT and dictate to third parties whom they can trade with. Nope, the agressor which most needs weakening is the one actively shooting rockets and killing tens of thousands of civilians in just three months. > And yes, the US is just coercing others into its foreign policy campaign against Russia under the guise of "punishment" Nope, it's like everyone wanted to help Russia, so they invested there, bought their gas and oil so that maybe Russia is a good trade partner. But Russia decided that they now are strong enough to invade their neighbour and threaten other neighbours with more violence. Yeah, we should pat Rusia on their head and say "good job invading Ukraine, please don't invade us" while Russia makes threats of further invading left and right while telling everyone that they didn't in fact invade anyone yet.
watwut 4y ago
US is actually helping Ukraine. They are actually sending arms there and enough to make the difference. Its interactions with Ukraine last 31 were way more friendly then Russian interactions in any case. > US is just coercing others into its foreign policy campaign against Russia under the guise of "punishment". Nah, there is a lot of push coming from Estonia, Poland, Ukraine itself, Latvia, Czech Republic and so on. This is not even close to US throwing weight in it, no matter how much you wish to twist events that way. > The aggressor which most needs weakening is the one that's able to hijack SWIFT and dictate to third parties whom they can trade with. No, it is the one implementing filtering camps, comitting genocide, burning Ukrainian books ...

yetihehe 4y ago

> don't believe the US has any interest in "helping Ukraine", let alone the people of Ukraine, In this case, "Enemy of my enemy is my friend.". "Not having interest in helping Ukraine" doesn't mean that USA wants to hurt Ukraine. And if it does, well, Russia wants it much more, so it would be still wise for Ukrainians to side with USA. But USA does indeed have one big interest in helping Ukraine. While helping them, they hurt Russia. > The aggressor which most needs weakening is the one that's able to hijack SWIFT and dictate to third parties whom they can trade with. Nope, the agressor which most needs weakening is the one actively shooting rockets and killing tens of thousands of civilians in just three months. > And yes, the US is just coercing others into its foreign policy campaign against Russia under the guise of "punishment" Nope, it's like everyone wanted to help Russia, so they invested there, bought their gas and oil so that maybe Russia is a good trade partner. But Russia decided that they now are strong enough to invade their neighbour and threaten other neighbours with more violence. Yeah, we should pat Rusia on their head and say "good job invading Ukraine, please don't invade us" while Russia makes threats of further invading left and right while telling everyone that they didn't in fact invade anyone yet.

watwut 4y ago

US is actually helping Ukraine. They are actually sending arms there and enough to make the difference. Its interactions with Ukraine last 31 were way more friendly then Russian interactions in any case. > US is just coercing others into its foreign policy campaign against Russia under the guise of "punishment". Nah, there is a lot of push coming from Estonia, Poland, Ukraine itself, Latvia, Czech Republic and so on. This is not even close to US throwing weight in it, no matter how much you wish to twist events that way. > The aggressor which most needs weakening is the one that's able to hijack SWIFT and dictate to third parties whom they can trade with. No, it is the one implementing filtering camps, comitting genocide, burning Ukrainian books ...