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You've already excluded a huge segment of the population with your very first line. Regardless, all that does very little to stop the worst sources of the probl
by AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
You've already excluded a huge segment of the population with your very first line. Regardless, all that does very little to stop the worst sources of the problem: industry. In fact, this obsession with mainting a lifestyle that only exists because of fossil fuels and environmentally damaging industry is part of the problem in my opinion.
- bryanlarsen 4y agoI'm responding to a comment about rich people. Also, anything that reduces TCO benefits poor people more than rich people, so if they don't have the capital for an up-front investment governments should be providing cheap loans or grants. IMO the obsession with requiring sacrifice is alienating, counter-productive and unnecessary.
- starkd 4y agoWhy? Because people don't want to live life as if they were back in the 19th century? You go first.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y agoYeah, exactly my point. World going to shit around us as a direct consequence of our lifestyles and nobody is going to do anything about it because they feel entitled to said lifestyle. We could do something, we choose not to. Future generations will revile us, as we deserve that.
- starkd 4y ago"the world going to shit" carries a lot of assumptions. It's not just about amassing money. It's a bout survival for many people. Getting enough food to eat. Up to 100 million people (mostly Africans) could be facing starvation from not being able to import grain from the Ukraine. A crisis which is about the availability of energy. A little humility in realizing we don't know what's going to happen. There are consequences to any choice we make here.