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What do you think about this perspective of the war: > It appears that Germany and France have started to wake up to the Anglosphere’s designs. This US and UK

What do you think about this perspective of the war: > It appears that Germany and France have started to wake up to the Anglosphere’s designs. This US and UK imposed war is hollowing out Germany and France, Europe’s economic power houses, by destroying their economies. The UK is particularly chuffed about breaking the European Union and forming an informal union of Russophobe countries from the Baltics and Central Europe. > Germany now believes that one of the objectives of the Anglosphere through this war was to kill the Nord Stream 2 pipeline between Russia and Germany which was crucial for keeping German industry competitive in the world market. German industrial leaders are crying hoarse over this but European capitals, including and particularly Berlin, are too timid to stand up for their own interests. The same goes for France. > However, sources say, lately, both Germany and France are taking some steps in tandem to sabotage the Anglosphere’s designs in Ukraine. Both Germany and France have either stopped supplying critical weapons to Ukraine or are delaying it to the point where they shall have little or no role to play in the war. They are also wary about the possible wheat shortage across the world and have established back-channels with Moscow to look at possible ways Ukrainian wheat can be exported via the Black Sea. Source: https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/international/100-days-of-war-test-european-unity-and-patience-how-long-can-ukraine-hold-out https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/international/100-days-o...

KptMarchewa 4y ago
You can stop reading after "This US and UK imposed war".
- eshch 4y ago
  because you can proof they didn't i guess
  - KptMarchewa 4y ago
    Yes, US Navy Seals broke into Putin's palace, put a gun on his head and told him to launch war on Ukraine.
watwut 4y ago
First, framing the war as imposed by USA is plain lie. It is not even different perspective, it requires intentional manipulation of events and lying to promote. > However, sources say, lately, both Germany and France are taking some steps in tandem to sabotage the Anglosphere’s designs in Ukraine. Yes, it seems like they are fine with genocide of Ukrainians in exchange of business. And yes, they are loosing soft power European countries as a result. But, to be fair, Germany does quite a lot of humanitarian help, even as the Sholtz would be happy to sacrifice Ukraine to Russia. > forming an informal union of Russophobe countries from the Baltics and Central Europe Yes, countries formerly occupied by Russia and being at risk of being occupied by Russia again had Russia succeeded in Ukraine don't like Russia as much as India. India did not had that many citizens murdered by Russia, did not had political system dictated by Russia. The closer to Russia you are, the more corruption is there. From Stalin to Putin, it is pretty easy to see why Baltics and Central Europe dont want Russian tanks at home again.
- thriftwy 4y ago
  How does being a russophobe protect you from Russian tanks at home? Central Europe is circa 100M people, just get yourself a real competitive army (not NATO) - that will protect you from Russian tanks at home. Then you can normalize relations with Russia. Which does not like you very much either, by the way.
  - watwut 4y ago
    > How does being a russophobe protect you from Russian tanks at home? The Russophobia displays by sending support to Ukraine and pushing for EU independence from Russian exports. It also manifests by trying to keep your country less influenced by Russia. So, quite a lot, actually. It does a lot more then appeasement. > Central Europe is circa 100M people, just get yourself a real competitive army (not NATO) - that will protect you from Russian tanks at home. Central Europe is already member of NATO, which is even better. NATO has also United States in it, which would be even more useful in case of attack. Even now, Americans are the ones giving out the most needed arms to Ukraine. > Then you can normalize relations with Russia. That is up to Russia to normalize relations. They are the expansive aggressor praising Stalin legacy. Once they stop trying to export their corruption, violence and authoritarianism, relationships can normalize.
jeroenhd 4y ago
Your source is seemingly blaming Russia's invasion of Ukraine on the US and UK. That doesn't really make for a convincing source on... anything, really.
- webmobdev 4y ago
  > Your source is seemingly blaming Russia's invasion of Ukraine on the US and UK. No, it's discussing the geopolitics involved in the war between the European powers. It is a fact that Germany, France and UK in Europe don't see eye to eye on many issues. And it is definitely a realistic possibility that the US and UK want to partly break the EU and and create a rival union with the states bordering Russia. This would mean that even if Germany and France want to improve economic relationship with Russia in the future, they would have to involve the US and UK too. It is clever as it would isolate Russia more from Europe as it would now need to deal with two blocs hostile to it.
wiseleo 4y ago
As a Ukrainian-American, I will tell you this: There are no Anglosphere designs. There is an insane aggressor who is getting defeated with the help of our allies who happen to speak English. Our President has appealed to more than 50 countries for military and humanitarian aid. The countries standing in the way of peace in order of annoyance are: Russia, Belarus, France, Germany, India. Russia is raping and killing our children in occupied territories, which is an established fact. It is committing genocide of Ukrainians. It has deported over 1.5 million of our women and children into Russia. It is attacking our cities full of peaceful residents and every single aspect of our culture. 200+ churches have been bombed. Ukraine is older than Russia. Kyiv is 1540 years old. We have countless UNESCO-listed objects of historical heritage that are being systematically demolished by cruise missiles. Belarus is providing Russia with a base of operations, but is itself an occupied nation. We are patiently waiting for it to crash. Its dictator is sensibly defying Russia's request to join this war and so we are thankful for that at least. However, over 1700 missiles were launched at Ukraine from Belarus. Hungary is denying access through its borders to deliver military and humanitarian supplies and actively interfering with EU sanctions. It will likely force EU to take drastic measures to work around its interference. France is trying to reason with an insane man. France and Turkey are offering to broker a peace agreement that infringes on Ukraine's sovereignty. Ukraine will achieve a complete defeat of Russia and is not interested in unsecured peace. Germany promised a lot. Germany helps tremendously with humanitarian aid to our refugees. Germany has yet to deliver the majority of promised heavy equipment that Ukraine desperately needs. Germany is moving in the right direction. India is not helping. If it chooses to help Russia, there will be severe consequences. Russia is being thrown back into 1970s, literally. It will not be a viable partner for India after it loses the war. Who are Ukraine's best friends? Poland - without a question, unconditional support. USA - without its weapons, Ukraine would have been occupied by now. UK - lots of weapons delivered very quickly and sometimes stronger than USA versions. You are not informed just how much UK is helping Ukraine militarily. The rest of EU - EU is assisting as a whole tremendously. Moldova - they are broke but still are helping unconditionally. Do you know why Ukraine's grain cannot be exported? Our primary means of export is Black Sea. That entire sea is blockaded and mined by Russia since February. Your "source" makes me sick. As far as I am concerned, it's written by Moscow. It says "As many as 75 foreign vessels that were to carry wheat are stuck at different ports in Ukraine that are still under Ukrainian control. These ships are not leaving because it is Ukraine that has mined the shallow waters leading to the port. If nothing can come in, it also means that nothing can go out." That is a lie. Those are Russian mines. They are washing up on our beaches and killing people. Please read and watch something that is a little more realistic... For current news, that would be 1+1 International. That's Ukrainian news in English. It will shock you. If that's too biased for you, BBC and CNN have plenty of information.

KptMarchewa 4y ago

You can stop reading after "This US and UK imposed war".

eshch 4y ago
because you can proof they didn't i guess
- KptMarchewa 4y ago
  Yes, US Navy Seals broke into Putin's palace, put a gun on his head and told him to launch war on Ukraine.

watwut 4y ago

First, framing the war as imposed by USA is plain lie. It is not even different perspective, it requires intentional manipulation of events and lying to promote. > However, sources say, lately, both Germany and France are taking some steps in tandem to sabotage the Anglosphere’s designs in Ukraine. Yes, it seems like they are fine with genocide of Ukrainians in exchange of business. And yes, they are loosing soft power European countries as a result. But, to be fair, Germany does quite a lot of humanitarian help, even as the Sholtz would be happy to sacrifice Ukraine to Russia. > forming an informal union of Russophobe countries from the Baltics and Central Europe Yes, countries formerly occupied by Russia and being at risk of being occupied by Russia again had Russia succeeded in Ukraine don't like Russia as much as India. India did not had that many citizens murdered by Russia, did not had political system dictated by Russia. The closer to Russia you are, the more corruption is there. From Stalin to Putin, it is pretty easy to see why Baltics and Central Europe dont want Russian tanks at home again.

thriftwy 4y ago
How does being a russophobe protect you from Russian tanks at home? Central Europe is circa 100M people, just get yourself a real competitive army (not NATO) - that will protect you from Russian tanks at home. Then you can normalize relations with Russia. Which does not like you very much either, by the way.
- watwut 4y ago
  > How does being a russophobe protect you from Russian tanks at home? The Russophobia displays by sending support to Ukraine and pushing for EU independence from Russian exports. It also manifests by trying to keep your country less influenced by Russia. So, quite a lot, actually. It does a lot more then appeasement. > Central Europe is circa 100M people, just get yourself a real competitive army (not NATO) - that will protect you from Russian tanks at home. Central Europe is already member of NATO, which is even better. NATO has also United States in it, which would be even more useful in case of attack. Even now, Americans are the ones giving out the most needed arms to Ukraine. > Then you can normalize relations with Russia. That is up to Russia to normalize relations. They are the expansive aggressor praising Stalin legacy. Once they stop trying to export their corruption, violence and authoritarianism, relationships can normalize.

jeroenhd 4y ago

Your source is seemingly blaming Russia's invasion of Ukraine on the US and UK. That doesn't really make for a convincing source on... anything, really.

webmobdev 4y ago
> Your source is seemingly blaming Russia's invasion of Ukraine on the US and UK. No, it's discussing the geopolitics involved in the war between the European powers. It is a fact that Germany, France and UK in Europe don't see eye to eye on many issues. And it is definitely a realistic possibility that the US and UK want to partly break the EU and and create a rival union with the states bordering Russia. This would mean that even if Germany and France want to improve economic relationship with Russia in the future, they would have to involve the US and UK too. It is clever as it would isolate Russia more from Europe as it would now need to deal with two blocs hostile to it.

wiseleo 4y ago

As a Ukrainian-American, I will tell you this: There are no Anglosphere designs. There is an insane aggressor who is getting defeated with the help of our allies who happen to speak English. Our President has appealed to more than 50 countries for military and humanitarian aid. The countries standing in the way of peace in order of annoyance are: Russia, Belarus, France, Germany, India. Russia is raping and killing our children in occupied territories, which is an established fact. It is committing genocide of Ukrainians. It has deported over 1.5 million of our women and children into Russia. It is attacking our cities full of peaceful residents and every single aspect of our culture. 200+ churches have been bombed. Ukraine is older than Russia. Kyiv is 1540 years old. We have countless UNESCO-listed objects of historical heritage that are being systematically demolished by cruise missiles. Belarus is providing Russia with a base of operations, but is itself an occupied nation. We are patiently waiting for it to crash. Its dictator is sensibly defying Russia's request to join this war and so we are thankful for that at least. However, over 1700 missiles were launched at Ukraine from Belarus. Hungary is denying access through its borders to deliver military and humanitarian supplies and actively interfering with EU sanctions. It will likely force EU to take drastic measures to work around its interference. France is trying to reason with an insane man. France and Turkey are offering to broker a peace agreement that infringes on Ukraine's sovereignty. Ukraine will achieve a complete defeat of Russia and is not interested in unsecured peace. Germany promised a lot. Germany helps tremendously with humanitarian aid to our refugees. Germany has yet to deliver the majority of promised heavy equipment that Ukraine desperately needs. Germany is moving in the right direction. India is not helping. If it chooses to help Russia, there will be severe consequences. Russia is being thrown back into 1970s, literally. It will not be a viable partner for India after it loses the war. Who are Ukraine's best friends? Poland - without a question, unconditional support. USA - without its weapons, Ukraine would have been occupied by now. UK - lots of weapons delivered very quickly and sometimes stronger than USA versions. You are not informed just how much UK is helping Ukraine militarily. The rest of EU - EU is assisting as a whole tremendously. Moldova - they are broke but still are helping unconditionally. Do you know why Ukraine's grain cannot be exported? Our primary means of export is Black Sea. That entire sea is blockaded and mined by Russia since February. Your "source" makes me sick. As far as I am concerned, it's written by Moscow. It says "As many as 75 foreign vessels that were to carry wheat are stuck at different ports in Ukraine that are still under Ukrainian control. These ships are not leaving because it is Ukraine that has mined the shallow waters leading to the port. If nothing can come in, it also means that nothing can go out." That is a lie. Those are Russian mines. They are washing up on our beaches and killing people. Please read and watch something that is a little more realistic... For current news, that would be 1+1 International. That's Ukrainian news in English. It will shock you. If that's too biased for you, BBC and CNN have plenty of information.