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Well, the EU mandated that search engines manipulate their search results too. So I guess it's indeed that they dislike Yandex/Russia, not that they dislike bia

Well, the EU mandated that search engines manipulate their search results too. So I guess it's indeed that they dislike Yandex/Russia, not that they dislike biased search results.

DandyDev 4y ago
Sources for this claim?
- jdasdf 4y ago
  Would the notice they sent to google suffice? https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/26927483# https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/26927483# >From: <@ec.europa.eu> >Date: Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 6:57 PM >Subject: Ukraine >Dear Signatories, >I am sending you the below email on behalf of [redacted], in order to provide clarifications related to the sanctions, following up on questions received. (...) >Search engines such as Google are designed to index results containing any possible content; they index websites throughout the world; the information is indexed by their ‘web crawlers’ or robots, that is to say, computer programmes used to locate and sweep up the content of web pages methodically and automatically (see by analogy judgment of the ECJ in Google Spain, C‑131/12, para. 43). The activity of search engines plays a decisive role in the overall dissemination of content in that it renders the latter accessible to any internet user making a search on the basis of the content indication or related terms, including to internet users who otherwise would not have found the web page on which that content is published (see by analogy judgment of the ECJ in Google Spain, C‑131/12, para. 36). Consequently, if search engines such as Google did not delist RT and Sputnik, they would facilitate the public’s access to the content of RT and Sputnik, or contribute to such access. >It follows from the foregoing that by virtue of the Regulation, providers of Internet search services must make sure that i) any link to the Internet sites of RT and Sputnik and ii) any content of RT and Sputnik, including short textual descriptions, visual elements and links to the corresponding websites do not appear in the search results delivered to users located in the EU. Social media
- severino 4y ago
  Just try to search "Russia Today" in Google, Bing, DDG, whatever, from inside the EU, and you'll see. Do you know what you'll get within the first results? Fox news, for example.
sofixa 4y ago
No, they dislike official state propaganda which is blatantly and verifiably false, from an enemy, regardless of who promotes it. yes, Russia is an enemy of the EU, and it's entirely Russia's fault. In a sense it has always been an enemy for a few EU countries like Poland and the Baltics. Nonetheless, the EU, and some specific countries in it, tried to placate Russia for a very long time, hoping that the same thing achieved by the EU (peace and prosperity through very close economic integration) could be achieved with Russia. It's fully on the shoulders of Putin and his cronies that it didn't work out, but at least thanks to his misguided actions Germany and others can finally move to get rid of natural gas.
- nix23 4y ago
  >enemy of the EU, and it's entirely Russia's fault. That's blindness to history and utter BS, please do your research and stop being so uneducated when spiting out such sentences. Damn, you have access to the world's knowledge, it's unacceptable being that uneducated and extremist.
  - sofixa 4y ago
    Oh please, I'm from Bulgaria, a nation split between Russophilia and Russophobia due to centuries of history with Russia. I'm a history nerd and have pretty decent knowledge around Eastern European history. What I'm saying is coming from a position of knowledge, history and geopolitics, not random "Russia bad guys communism" or whatever you think it is. If you're so certain in your version, go on, let's debate. How is Russia, in today's form, not an enemy of the EU through it's own choice?
    - nix23 4y ago
      >How is Russia, in today's form, not an enemy of the EU through it's own choice? Why is it? Ukraine is not part of the EU, but the EU and it's big brother NATO aka US is threatening russia since years -> NATO east expansion. But hey instead of having good relations, you force Russia to make a pact with china. You know what happened last time the Warsaw-pact made a east expansion? Hint Kuba....but Russia has to accept it in Poland and Turkey (after all US=good Russia=bad). Thinking that Russia is the enemy of Europe will bring out two winners, China and the US, once more we got played. Not NATO nor Russia is the good guy here, and talking with words like "enemy" is exactly what's not needed now. What do you think happens when Russia has no other choices?
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Well, the EU mandated that search engines manipulate their search results too. So I guess it's indeed that they dislike Yandex/Russia, not that they dislike biased search results.

DandyDev 4y ago

Sources for this claim?

jdasdf 4y ago
Would the notice they sent to google suffice? https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/26927483# https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/26927483# >From: <@ec.europa.eu> >Date: Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 6:57 PM >Subject: Ukraine >Dear Signatories, >I am sending you the below email on behalf of [redacted], in order to provide clarifications related to the sanctions, following up on questions received. (...) >Search engines such as Google are designed to index results containing any possible content; they index websites throughout the world; the information is indexed by their ‘web crawlers’ or robots, that is to say, computer programmes used to locate and sweep up the content of web pages methodically and automatically (see by analogy judgment of the ECJ in Google Spain, C‑131/12, para. 43). The activity of search engines plays a decisive role in the overall dissemination of content in that it renders the latter accessible to any internet user making a search on the basis of the content indication or related terms, including to internet users who otherwise would not have found the web page on which that content is published (see by analogy judgment of the ECJ in Google Spain, C‑131/12, para. 36). Consequently, if search engines such as Google did not delist RT and Sputnik, they would facilitate the public’s access to the content of RT and Sputnik, or contribute to such access. >It follows from the foregoing that by virtue of the Regulation, providers of Internet search services must make sure that i) any link to the Internet sites of RT and Sputnik and ii) any content of RT and Sputnik, including short textual descriptions, visual elements and links to the corresponding websites do not appear in the search results delivered to users located in the EU. Social media
severino 4y ago
Just try to search "Russia Today" in Google, Bing, DDG, whatever, from inside the EU, and you'll see. Do you know what you'll get within the first results? Fox news, for example.

sofixa 4y ago

No, they dislike official state propaganda which is blatantly and verifiably false, from an enemy, regardless of who promotes it. yes, Russia is an enemy of the EU, and it's entirely Russia's fault. In a sense it has always been an enemy for a few EU countries like Poland and the Baltics. Nonetheless, the EU, and some specific countries in it, tried to placate Russia for a very long time, hoping that the same thing achieved by the EU (peace and prosperity through very close economic integration) could be achieved with Russia. It's fully on the shoulders of Putin and his cronies that it didn't work out, but at least thanks to his misguided actions Germany and others can finally move to get rid of natural gas.

nix23 4y ago
>enemy of the EU, and it's entirely Russia's fault. That's blindness to history and utter BS, please do your research and stop being so uneducated when spiting out such sentences. Damn, you have access to the world's knowledge, it's unacceptable being that uneducated and extremist.
- sofixa 4y ago
  Oh please, I'm from Bulgaria, a nation split between Russophilia and Russophobia due to centuries of history with Russia. I'm a history nerd and have pretty decent knowledge around Eastern European history. What I'm saying is coming from a position of knowledge, history and geopolitics, not random "Russia bad guys communism" or whatever you think it is. If you're so certain in your version, go on, let's debate. How is Russia, in today's form, not an enemy of the EU through it's own choice?
  - nix23 4y ago
    >How is Russia, in today's form, not an enemy of the EU through it's own choice? Why is it? Ukraine is not part of the EU, but the EU and it's big brother NATO aka US is threatening russia since years -> NATO east expansion. But hey instead of having good relations, you force Russia to make a pact with china. You know what happened last time the Warsaw-pact made a east expansion? Hint Kuba....but Russia has to accept it in Poland and Turkey (after all US=good Russia=bad). Thinking that Russia is the enemy of Europe will bring out two winners, China and the US, once more we got played. Not NATO nor Russia is the good guy here, and talking with words like "enemy" is exactly what's not needed now. What do you think happens when Russia has no other choices?

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