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Its all fine and dandy, but expect ppl will be willing to do this kind of work if you pay them few salaries worth of money. If you want senior developer that w

by pojzon 4y ago

Its all fine and dandy, but expect ppl will be willing to do this kind of work if you pay them few salaries worth of money. If you want senior developer that will work as an architect, team lead, product manager etc. (S)He better make 400k per year or more.

jseban 4y ago
Yeah I agree, and the most ridiculous part is that they still have architects, team leads, product managers etc who now really do nothing other than riding the gullible software developer
- dzikimarian 4y ago
  We don't have architects :-) Most of bigger topics is decided by communicating between seniors in various projects. (it's fully transparent, anyone can see and contribute). We have some PMs/POs in order to cover communications with customer - there's legal part to manage, market research, and there are difficult customers, which unusual reporting needs that have nothing to do with technology, so everyone is happy to leave it to them.
dzikimarian 4y ago
It seems like you assume, that they are tasked more than usual, but in reality this the way we want to work, because it's simply better. There are many seniors on the team, so it's not like one is expected to fully cover multiple roles. It just means that you aren't bound to single. We have nearly zero rotation within senior staff, and some actually came back from other companies, sometimes due to pure frustration with how little impact they had on what's happening within the project. Simply most of the team considers it the way it should work, not additional chore. About 400k (USD I assume) - where I live you could easily get really nice house with that in less than a year, with zero mortgage and without limiting your daily spending too much. I'm happy for you if you have ability to earn that, but with such expectations and altitude - no wonder US corps are so eager to outsource to our side of the pond :-)
- 908B64B197 4y ago
  > About 400k (USD I assume) - where I live you could easily get really nice house with that in less than a year, with zero mortgage and without limiting your daily spending too much. That's not the way to think about it when looking at leveraged assets. A house where you live. > I'm happy for you if you have ability to earn that, but with such expectations and altitude - no wonder US corps are so eager to outsource to our side of the pond :-) Are they? Last time I looked there was a lot of Europeans looking to move to America, but the reverse was exceedingly rare.

by pojzon 4y ago

jseban 4y ago

Yeah I agree, and the most ridiculous part is that they still have architects, team leads, product managers etc who now really do nothing other than riding the gullible software developer

dzikimarian 4y ago
We don't have architects :-) Most of bigger topics is decided by communicating between seniors in various projects. (it's fully transparent, anyone can see and contribute). We have some PMs/POs in order to cover communications with customer - there's legal part to manage, market research, and there are difficult customers, which unusual reporting needs that have nothing to do with technology, so everyone is happy to leave it to them.

dzikimarian 4y ago

It seems like you assume, that they are tasked more than usual, but in reality this the way we want to work, because it's simply better. There are many seniors on the team, so it's not like one is expected to fully cover multiple roles. It just means that you aren't bound to single. We have nearly zero rotation within senior staff, and some actually came back from other companies, sometimes due to pure frustration with how little impact they had on what's happening within the project. Simply most of the team considers it the way it should work, not additional chore. About 400k (USD I assume) - where I live you could easily get really nice house with that in less than a year, with zero mortgage and without limiting your daily spending too much. I'm happy for you if you have ability to earn that, but with such expectations and altitude - no wonder US corps are so eager to outsource to our side of the pond :-)

908B64B197 4y ago
> About 400k (USD I assume) - where I live you could easily get really nice house with that in less than a year, with zero mortgage and without limiting your daily spending too much. That's not the way to think about it when looking at leveraged assets. A house where you live. > I'm happy for you if you have ability to earn that, but with such expectations and altitude - no wonder US corps are so eager to outsource to our side of the pond :-) Are they? Last time I looked there was a lot of Europeans looking to move to America, but the reverse was exceedingly rare.