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Most EV owners will only need to charge at these types of chargers when on long road trips, which are likely to be infrequent (for most drivers). Overnight char

Most EV owners will only need to charge at these types of chargers when on long road trips, which are likely to be infrequent (for most drivers). Overnight charging is all you need for any daily driving <300 miles. Everybody needs to go to the gas station whether they are road tripping or a local. It’s not the same for EVs.

vanilla_nut 4y ago
Everyone who owns a charger, most likely in a garage, attached to a single-family home is != everyone. It’s a good point, that theoretically you’ll have fewer users at electric charging stations because individuals can self-charge. But when most homes don’t have an electric charger, and many will never have an electric charger, that might not be as big a difference as you think. My last apartment was a very nice condo and there were two electric chargers in the basement. Not sure if I could rely on that for every day commuting needs.
- matthewdgreen 4y ago
  I mean this sounds bad but also eminently fixable. Compared to, say, replacing a condo roof the problem of installing a few new chargers is about the most straightforward capital improvement you could imagine.
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  > Everyone who owns a charger, most likely in a garage, attached to a single-family home is != everyone. The majority of people in the US live in single family detached homes. While there are a significant number of people living in apartments or condos, we have a long ways to go before that's going to limit adoption. > most homes don’t have an electric charger Every home has 120V sockets, and installing a 14-50 isn't cost prohibitive given how much you save in the first year alone compared to gasoline. The average person could charge every day with a bog standard 120V outlet and be fine. 14-50 is nice when you go on a road trip and want to recover full charge by the next morning, though.

vanilla_nut 4y ago

Everyone who owns a charger, most likely in a garage, attached to a single-family home is != everyone. It’s a good point, that theoretically you’ll have fewer users at electric charging stations because individuals can self-charge. But when most homes don’t have an electric charger, and many will never have an electric charger, that might not be as big a difference as you think. My last apartment was a very nice condo and there were two electric chargers in the basement. Not sure if I could rely on that for every day commuting needs.

matthewdgreen 4y ago
I mean this sounds bad but also eminently fixable. Compared to, say, replacing a condo roof the problem of installing a few new chargers is about the most straightforward capital improvement you could imagine.
rootusrootus 4y ago
> Everyone who owns a charger, most likely in a garage, attached to a single-family home is != everyone. The majority of people in the US live in single family detached homes. While there are a significant number of people living in apartments or condos, we have a long ways to go before that's going to limit adoption. > most homes don’t have an electric charger Every home has 120V sockets, and installing a 14-50 isn't cost prohibitive given how much you save in the first year alone compared to gasoline. The average person could charge every day with a bog standard 120V outlet and be fine. 14-50 is nice when you go on a road trip and want to recover full charge by the next morning, though.