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Because it would degenerate into pharmaceuticals selling false hope in exchange for lab rats that are too far along to be saved even if the drugs work. That be

Because it would degenerate into pharmaceuticals selling false hope in exchange for lab rats that are too far along to be saved even if the drugs work. That being said I disagree with prescription pads. I should buy antibiotics for my kid without waiting four, five hours to be seen and processed

pastacacioepepe 4y ago
> I should buy antibiotics for my kid without waiting four, five hours to be seen and processed Disagree. Antibiotics should not be taken lightly, especially by kids. Doctors have been far too liberal in prescribing them even when unnecessary and this has caused people to think antibiotics are to be taken like vitamins. This antibiotic abuse causes issues that are out of scope to discuss here.
- hp48fan 4y ago
  Which is why I get annoyed when Dr. prescribe them more liberally than I would; for things that they'll admit are probably viral. But when a girl with a history of UTI is screaming in pain they come back with "Id rather wait for the cultures to come back" No. Bugger off and give me the meds. I know my kid. I know what she has. And the culture confirms it three days layer every time.
Wowfunhappy 4y ago
The more we use antibiotics, the more opportunities there are for bacteria to evolve resistance.
- hp48fan 4y ago
  So Ive been told. And yet the Dr gives them out in exactly the same circumstances as I would if I could. Perhaps more liberally, since Im far more concerned about the consequences to my kids of destroying their gut flora.
  - scoopertrooper 4y ago
    It seems like you want to create a general rule entirely based on your own personal experience.
    - hp48fan 4y ago
      You are correct. I arrive at conclusions based on my life experiences and what I've learned along the way. We literally give industrial quantities of antibiotics to animals. So antibiotic preservation is not an honest reason to lock them up Tylenol and Advil can very quickly mess up your kid's liver and kidneys if you misdose. Yet, they're over the counter. So safety does not appear to be an honest reason either. Ironically, statistically considering the forum, most ppl who are against me on this thread believe in drug liberalization including opiates; the one class for drugs I would keep behind the pharmacist's counter. Btw, antibiotics are available over the counter in Europe. The ones Id use and feel comfortable using
      - Wowfunhappy 4y ago
        > We literally give industrial quantities of antibiotics to animals. So antibiotic preservation is not an honest reason to lock them up We desperately need to stop doing that too, but at least it optimizes for bacteria that infects animals rather than humans. I don't think you (and most other people) are anywhere near scared enough of returning to a world without antibiotics.
        hp48fan 4y ago
        "optimizes for bacteria that infects animals rather than humans." But then there is horizontal gene transfer. The world has a lot to be scared of. Ive had an easy life, save for one or two experiences that have dwindled what truly frightens me a lot: - Dying after my kids (unless my kids have a tremendous disability. Then my fear is reversed) - Facing God, if He exists. If He doesn't, the nothingness of space. Pain was on the list, but a bone marrow biopsy knocked it off. A world without modern antibiotics doesn't scare me. Much anyway.
      - 4y ago

pastacacioepepe 4y ago

> I should buy antibiotics for my kid without waiting four, five hours to be seen and processed Disagree. Antibiotics should not be taken lightly, especially by kids. Doctors have been far too liberal in prescribing them even when unnecessary and this has caused people to think antibiotics are to be taken like vitamins. This antibiotic abuse causes issues that are out of scope to discuss here.

hp48fan 4y ago
Which is why I get annoyed when Dr. prescribe them more liberally than I would; for things that they'll admit are probably viral. But when a girl with a history of UTI is screaming in pain they come back with "Id rather wait for the cultures to come back" No. Bugger off and give me the meds. I know my kid. I know what she has. And the culture confirms it three days layer every time.

Wowfunhappy 4y ago

The more we use antibiotics, the more opportunities there are for bacteria to evolve resistance.

hp48fan 4y ago
So Ive been told. And yet the Dr gives them out in exactly the same circumstances as I would if I could. Perhaps more liberally, since Im far more concerned about the consequences to my kids of destroying their gut flora.
- scoopertrooper 4y ago
  It seems like you want to create a general rule entirely based on your own personal experience.
  - hp48fan 4y ago
    You are correct. I arrive at conclusions based on my life experiences and what I've learned along the way. We literally give industrial quantities of antibiotics to animals. So antibiotic preservation is not an honest reason to lock them up Tylenol and Advil can very quickly mess up your kid's liver and kidneys if you misdose. Yet, they're over the counter. So safety does not appear to be an honest reason either. Ironically, statistically considering the forum, most ppl who are against me on this thread believe in drug liberalization including opiates; the one class for drugs I would keep behind the pharmacist's counter. Btw, antibiotics are available over the counter in Europe. The ones Id use and feel comfortable using
    - Wowfunhappy 4y ago
      > We literally give industrial quantities of antibiotics to animals. So antibiotic preservation is not an honest reason to lock them up We desperately need to stop doing that too, but at least it optimizes for bacteria that infects animals rather than humans. I don't think you (and most other people) are anywhere near scared enough of returning to a world without antibiotics.
      - hp48fan 4y ago
        "optimizes for bacteria that infects animals rather than humans." But then there is horizontal gene transfer. The world has a lot to be scared of. Ive had an easy life, save for one or two experiences that have dwindled what truly frightens me a lot: - Dying after my kids (unless my kids have a tremendous disability. Then my fear is reversed) - Facing God, if He exists. If He doesn't, the nothingness of space. Pain was on the list, but a bone marrow biopsy knocked it off. A world without modern antibiotics doesn't scare me. Much anyway.
    - 4y ago