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> Are there open-source implementation of Docs Yes: https://cryptpad.fr/ https://cryptpad.fr/

alduin32 4y ago
So I'm not sure if it's because of problems from the host of the CryptPad instance or because of CryptPad itself, but I've been using CryptPad for a collaborative spreadsheet for a weeks now, and it's been absolutely awful - Lost modifications, a lot of times ("something went wrong, please reload" and then the last 15 minutes of changes are just GONE) - Very frequent "synchronizing... please wait" screens that block you from doing anything for a few seconds - Undo/redo not possible in "live editing mode" - In "non-live editing mode", if you don't hit save manually and the TCP connection resets, you will lose all your changes - Pivot tables do very weird things with formatting And that's the experience of a solo user, there wasn't anyone joined in on the document at the time. I can only imagine how it would have been if were multiple persons working on that spreadsheet. I do have a flaky Internet connection, but Google Docs handle it fine, and emacs-crdt works very well too. I'm now refactoring the whole spreadsheet into a bunch of .csv files stored in Git, and a Python script that outputs a pivot table, because I've lost more types due to CryptPad bugs than the time it would take me to write that script.
- Ansil849 4y ago
  > but Google Docs handle it fine As opposed to files that consist of a '1' in them [1], or .ds_store files [2]. Not to mention the risk of Google just decided to lock your account for no clear reason and you losing access to all of your files, like the hundreds of horror stories out there. [1] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-drive-flags-nearly-empty-files-for-copyright-infringement/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-drive-... [2] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-drive-flags-macos-ds-store-files-for-copyright-violation/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-drive-...

So I'm not sure if it's because of problems from the host of the CryptPad instance or because of CryptPad itself, but I've been using CryptPad for a collaborative spreadsheet for a weeks now, and it's been absolutely awful - Lost modifications, a lot of times ("something went wrong, please reload" and then the last 15 minutes of changes are just GONE) - Very frequent "synchronizing... please wait" screens that block you from doing anything for a few seconds - Undo/redo not possible in "live editing mode" - In "non-live editing mode", if you don't hit save manually and the TCP connection resets, you will lose all your changes - Pivot tables do very weird things with formatting And that's the experience of a solo user, there wasn't anyone joined in on the document at the time. I can only imagine how it would have been if were multiple persons working on that spreadsheet. I do have a flaky Internet connection, but Google Docs handle it fine, and emacs-crdt works very well too. I'm now refactoring the whole spreadsheet into a bunch of .csv files stored in Git, and a Python script that outputs a pivot table, because I've lost more types due to CryptPad bugs than the time it would take me to write that script.

Ansil849 4y ago
> but Google Docs handle it fine As opposed to files that consist of a '1' in them [1], or .ds_store files [2]. Not to mention the risk of Google just decided to lock your account for no clear reason and you losing access to all of your files, like the hundreds of horror stories out there. [1] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-drive-flags-nearly-empty-files-for-copyright-infringement/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-drive-... [2] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-drive-flags-macos-ds-store-files-for-copyright-violation/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-drive-...